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Thread: RIS Questions/Advice

beantownphan
Sun May 30, 2004 2:46 pm
#1

Bought my first GDK scale last week for 6 mil (wiped me out). Looted a GDK scale last night (on my 3rd solo kill as a 4203 RM). Anyway I had planned all along to complete the RIS quest and make 1 piece. Therefore I don't want to screw it up and I need your help.


Goals: have no vulnerabilities, 80% base, light as possible


Materials at my disposal:

-12% base NS layers

-Krayt scales

- good NS shards (-35 mind)

-RIS resources arent great to say the least- some sr/oq im sure is less than 500 combined on some- my boots were 48% base w no layers


Here's what I was thinking:

Use Intervoven RIS schematic and layer as follows:

-12% NS layer

-12% NS layer

-Stun layer (maxed for enc first, then base)

-Krayt scale

-Geo cube- need advice on this (Ive searched all the stickies for what color does what- most people use yellow or white- which does which?)


So if u can please try to judge whether

a) I can reach the 80% base

b) if u think this is a good setup

c) what type of geo cube is needed and which does what

d) general comments


Thanks AS community!



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Starpilots
Sun May 30, 2004 6:50 pm
#2

get some good Yellow cube's lower cap is 3% but they go to 10% maiby higer this add a lot of base


If you make a 45-50% base segment that wil make 80% base I have heard not made myself one bud looking to the latest facts, and with thise 2 NS layser and a yellow cube you will come a big whay in getting there maiby going over there



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beantownphan
Sun May 30, 2004 7:14 pm
#3

Please weigh in on this. If u've made RIS or if u haven't! Thanks everyone.



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Ox-
Sun May 30, 2004 7:27 pm
#4

Geo Cubes:

Yellow increase base
Red lower encumbrance
White do nothing (just placeholders to fill schematic)

So, you'll want yellow if you need an extra 3% or more base to hit 80. If you can hit 80 without the cube then go for red to make it lighter.

If you hit 48% on the boots, then you need 32% on the layers to hit 80%. THe 2 NS layers and a 3% yellow cube put you at 75%, so now you need an extra 5% from your other layer and your enhancement.

If you use a Krayt scale your nice 80% will no longer be sliceable to 90%. Maybe try to find a set of 5% janta hides instead?

Also, why experiment durability on the stun layer? Since you're just adding a single layer you really won't be saving that much I'd think. You'd be losing something like 1-2% base for -10/-10/-10 or so?

Did you put all your experimention into base on the boots? If so then it looks like you'll be able to hit 80% on base, but will have low kinetic? If you can be patient and gather a few better resources then you might be able to hit 80% and have some points left over to put into kinetic.




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Finegold12
Sun May 30, 2004 7:31 pm
#5

umm.. i'm returning to Smithy after a little break.

What's this about using Geo Cubes? I thought they were used for the Swordsman's Scythe Schematic.

Oh and the Green increases durability (at least it does for the Scythe), and Red reduces HAM.



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beantownphan
Mon May 31, 2004 6:27 am
#6

Ox,


Good point on the stun layers. And I think I may either wait or look around for some better resources before I put it together. I wish I had paid more attention when I was making the boots. I was just so excited. Good points all around.





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justapilgrim
Mon May 31, 2004 10:27 pm
#7

there is no point in using a stun layer if you ignore the acid vulnerability


you can't overcome two vulnerabilities in my opinion, so......just try to make it light, what is the point in getting a 80% base if a commando, pistoleer, rifleman, BH or others can kill you in one or two hits (acid weapons). how much acid will your krayt scale add? 4%


white cube does nothing


yellow cube adds base%


green cube adds to condition (get a good one with 10k+)


red cube lowers encumberence


DO NOT USE A WHITE CUBE!!!!!!!!! it is waste, it wont do anything. either bump your base up a touch, add some condition or lower your HAM


get a good scale if you are going to use it!!


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Tuanga
Mon May 31, 2004 10:40 pm
#8

I've seen Krayt scales with over 40% acid.



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beantownphan
Mon May 31, 2004 10:46 pm
#9

I made it!! I went around all day and greatly improved my resources to the point where the majority of them were over 600 oq/sr averaged. Not great but definitely better than I had. The resources I had were for making the quest stuff so I didn't care. Anyhow I used the following:


- Interwoven RIS schem


- 2 NS layers 12% base each


- 1 stun layer, maxed base then special


- yellow geo cube 3% base


- krayt scale (pretty good 1 too)


The stats are as follows:


All base stats I got to 80 with just a few points and put the rest in special to bump up the kinetic which I got to 66%- was hoping for higher on thisespecially since the krayt scale added8% kinetic. Acid and Stun were 7%. No vulnerabilities. Mind enc was 200, dont know the rest offhand. This is a little heavy and perhaps should have used an encumbrance geo cube, but the Kinetic would have been lower as a trade off.


Of course I got an effective slice which bumped electricity and restraint to 90%, oh well. I knew something would go wrong. The major drawback to using the Krayt scale...


Well, this is the end of my personal RIS quest- has taken about 3 months to gather alll the stuff and get ahold of 2 GDK scales. Unless another GDK scale falls into my lap I doubt Ill be making any more RIS.


Thanks for all the great RIS posts and help from all. Id post a screenshot but I am utterly hopeless on that matter. Good luck to other RISers. It can be done!



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justapilgrim
Mon May 31, 2004 11:12 pm
#10

I think you put too much into base and could have focuses on your two other protections or lowered HAM


still RIS is nice, and I think will be good after patch



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