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Thread: CU = Crafter Undertaker?

Shann0w
Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:45 pm
#1
First I want to offer personal thanks to Tiggs and Blixtev, you two have at least responded to users. I don't agree with the changes but at least we know you hear us.


I've been thinking about CU a lot. Everytime I just start to think I might be able to adapt I find another piece of bad news.


I was attracted to SWG because of its variety. Combat and Crafting. I was attracted because of its Scifi nature.


Anyway, the CU seems to me to be a Huge step toward completely removing crafting from SWG.



  1. Combat medics are losing all of their 150 or so craftable items and are being replaced by magical spells

  2. Doctors are losing all of theirs also, again being replaced by magical spells

  3. Armor is being reduced to a single line for experimentation. Why bother with experimentation if there's only one line? Just make the thing better as the crafters level increases.

  4. the devs claim CU is to balance all the professions so that everyone can participate in PvP and/or PvE. How is a crafter with 1000 Health supposed to defeat a Commando with 3000 Health?

  5. it's been said there will no longer be 3k buffs. Well the result is the same except doctors are removed from the equation. A fighter still will have 3k Health and regeration rates are still what they were

  6. ONLY players in Elite Combat Professions can wear armor of any kind. I live inside a player city on naboo and I still need to wear armor just to go to my factory. Heck, I get killed at least once a week

  7. artisans still need to survey for resources. Without being able to wear armor this becomes much more dangerous

  8. creatures like Dwarf Nuna hit for as much as 20 times what they used to (~400 pts now), while thecrafter they are facing can't wear armor and can only hit for 20 points or so. If this same trend is followed up to say Nightsister Elders they will hit for ~80,000 points of damage (last time I got hit by NS Elder she hit me for 3500 pts)

  9. CU is supposed to FORCE us into groups. Why is it so important for us to work in groups all the time? If it's so important why was the maximum group size reduced from 20 to 8? This seems quite silly since medics and doctors are supposed to be included now

  10. CU is supposed to force us into groups.... Are we supposed to get into a group of 8 to survey for resources? Are we supposed to get into a group of 8 to harvest hide?

  11. CU is supposed to make SWG more fun. I've tried it a number of times. I can't recall ever having less fun. Communication with group members is nearly impossible because you have to watch the yellow outline around the button you selected. Now they've moved all XP information to the combat spam. If you want to see what XP you are getting then you lose spatial messages if you don't happen to see the bubble

  12. Armor Piercing has been removed from SWG for CU. If you look at the average damage figures, about half the pistols now outdamage the T21 rifle.

  13. There are only two types of damage? Energy and Kinetic? There's supposed to be other types but I pulled a large number of weapons from the blue frog and I didn't see any elemental damage types.

  14. I could go on and on and on...

I'm extremely concerned about CU. If CU goes through it will completely Destroy many of the aspects of SWG that make it different and fun.

plonger
Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:51 pm
#2
yes, but we will all be equal now. Isn't that great?


/sarcasm off
NalaniKonomohu
Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:53 pm
#3
heres the dead bordok.... and here's the gaffi stick....lets all beat it lmao.


i completely agree with you Shann0w, dark times i forsee.... dark times.



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Privateer_Vivea
Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:10 pm
#4
I feel swg is doomed to the mmorpg grave yard. The devs are the worst I have ever seen in gaming, and I've been in the industry along time. Also what did you expect from a bunch of teenage drug losers who decided to put up pictures of naked women in the large naboo houses. when I saw that I realized we were dealing with people who knew jack @%$^ about making and updating games. those are my two cents but they ruined swg and I hope George Lucas comes down and beats every dev with a stick for being such morons after all you have to be pretty bad to ruin a fan base of star wars game.



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Bughunt
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:16 am
#5
Well said, but there not listening. /cry



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Virtuell
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:50 am
#6

Just let us hope they will listen to the players and not their ego of doing something that they think is a great Combat Upgrade/Rebalance.. I am following the Polls the have on this thread for awhile and it points at the direction that this "revamp" isn't good at all.





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KaiRaene
Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:09 am
#7
Sorry to hear it guys. Rangers are in the same boat. Royally screwed. They took a great indepth and interesting game and are dumbing it down for the masses. I rarely ever seen a post saying "SWG is too hard!" It was a fun learning experience.

So, what game is next? Matrix Online?



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Puttley
Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:27 am
#8
time to start looking for the new MMORPG to get into, this one is done, i give it a month from CU if no changes by then i quit (along with alot of others i think - just check the voting on the TC board - 80% give it 1 or 2 of5!)
glory
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:12 am
#9
They won't listen. They have invested too much into "THEIR" Cu and would look bad if they canned it. Probably a lot of heads would roll. Judging from Smedley's letter to us, no one has bothered to inform him how we really feel lol.

Even if every bug was fixed in the NEW SWG, the new way of playing would still be there and that is what we all hate so much. I like having one bar of health to worry about and not mind and action, I like the way they made all elite classes have the same requirements as far as skill points went....cept ranger.

I HATE all the rest of the CU. I hate being forced to group and that just kills it for me. I hate the fact no one can wear armor till they are elite. The list is sooo long and they know what it is. I just HATE that I am being forced to quit a game I loved.



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