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Thread: yet another question, from an experienced smith

theonebountyhunter
Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:35 pm
#1

using 2%base 6% kinetic with 3/3/3. it's been said u can use those layers to get 80% kinetic. no matter what i do i can't get better then 79% kinetic and 59% base. what gives?? i am at the point of selling all resources i have an go back to making money with power less headaches



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Euw
Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:44 pm
#2

Dont give up! Are you putting in a point into durability ? Or bounce up your layer too 7% if you have lower quality resources...



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theonebountyhunter
Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:57 pm
#3


i put 2 points into bottom bar and 8 on the top


trying to keep ham at 3/3/3 but i am about to just do 7%kinetic 2% base i recon but still my base will only be at 59% ah well i guess

Message Edited by theonebountyhunter on 04-21-2004 05:59 PM



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Shlo_mo_shun
Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:05 pm
#4

remember that fractions are at play here too, so one persons 2%/6% isn't another persons 2%/6%Theirs could be 2.33% (which if you have 3 layers, gives you a net of +1% for a 7% total to base) whileYours is a 2.05% (which only gives you 6% to the base) I would start with one more experiment to to base on your layers (at the expense of one to HAM) and see if that gets you that magical 1% bump. Good luck.



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Dova
Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:25 pm
#5

Make one of the layers 2/7 and you should hit 80%. If that doesn't do it use two 2/7 layers and one 2/6 layers. Experiment until you get the mix that works with your resources.
hopnasty
Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:30 pm
#6

Sounds to me like you need a higher OQ in maybe 1 or 2 of the resources for the kinetic layer. From my experience, OQ is tied into how high your "starting %" and SR extends the "maximum allowed" for the middle experimentation bar. If you start with slightly higher OQ, your end result will have the extra "fraction" you need to bump it from 79% to 80%.

Also, your layers might be fine. It could be the resources on the final assembly for Composite. Your OQ might be low in 1-2 resources, therefore lowering your "starting %" and your end result is less than what you want.

In all honesty, you need to upgrade a few resources OR remake your schematics over and over and over again until you hit 3 amazings.

Hope this helps.




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Drummerboychris
Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:08 pm
#7

you'll want to do it like this: 7 into top all at once and get an amazing. 2 into bottom, and 1 into middle. this will get you 60% base, 80% composite with 3/3/3 layers. might take a bit for that amazing, but once it happens, schematic it. good luck



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theonebountyhunter
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:59 pm
#8

resources being used are


Wooly Hide OQ 821, SR 997

N. Fiber OQ 985, SR 853

Intrusive Ore OQ 863, SR 993

AluminumOQ 906, SR 827

B. CopperOQ 827,SR 412

Solid petroOQ 903





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Drummerboychris
Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:20 pm
#9






theonebountyhunter wrote:

resources being used are


Wooly Hide OQ 821, SR 997

N. Fiber OQ 985, SR 853

Intrusive Ore OQ 863, SR 993

AluminumOQ 906, SR 827

B. CopperOQ 827,SR 412

Solid petroOQ 903








buy sacio oq is 974 or 976... should help get that 1%. also, try using a better aluminum... I use duriostate (really expensive now though ) but you could use the very recent phrik (starts with E.. like Edigme?) or Xooleris is popular. both will be better oq+sr for ya, and the dureostate is quite a bit better. looks like you're using Ones, which is good and looks like Oekis Intrusive? should be about maxxed on those... N. fiber can't get much better either, as that's the best in the recent shifts. Wooly I think is pretty close to maxxed, although I think pokou was a wee better... other then that, DEFINETLY do the 7 HAM with amazing, and then the 1 base, 2 Special. it'll solve all your problems gl



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MrMud
Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:16 am
#10

Agreed you really HAVE to go with the recent Phrik spawn on the final assembly if you arent going with duro at the moment it will make a big difference, sacio is also a must instead of the other solid petro, shouldnt be to hard to find since most ppl mined large quantities.


The naboo fiber is indeed the best ever made and quite a bit better than eodov actually (makes me kind of wish i hadnt saved it )





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