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Thread: which armor is best?

Julak
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:26 am
#1

ok i keep hearing that ubese armor is really good and has low HAM cost (yea rigth 45/32/238). but i picked up a composite peice and it had even better protections and lower HAM cost (45/36/75) but what i want to know is which is better?



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Ox-
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:43 am
#2

A good simple rule is: if it has better protection AND it has lower HAM, then it's better

A few things to keep in mind when making a judgement though.

First, an Ubese Jacket covers your chest AND your biceps (upper arms). So, when comparing the HAM costs you need to add the HAM from both left and right composite biceps to the total for composite.

Second, take into account the kind of damage done by creatures/players you normally fight. If you are fighting npcs who have energy weapons (like ST's) or if you PVP then Ubese isn't really an option and there's no point comparing it to any composite pieces.

Finally, which composite piece were you looking at with 45/36/75 HAM? That sounds exceptionally good for a composite piece.




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Bey
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:48 am
#3

You are asking the wrong question.


The correct question is : "What armor is best for my use ?"


Which depends what you intend to use it for.


Currently there are two popular armor types :


Composite, by many considered "best" based on the high resists, but the cost of buying and wearing is high.


Composite is layered differently depending on usage, commonly made for high base resists, but also some varieties like Stun ( very popular now ) and Kinetic ( top of the line hunting armor ).


Ubese is a low cost alternative to Kinetic Comp. A full suit of 80% kinetic comp will run you 200K + ... 70-75% Kinetic Ubese 80K +


Ubese is also less encumbering, but is also less durable than composite.


Those two are the most popular.


But I also get requests for special padded suits from people who want to look good ( padded has the greatest palette of all armor types ), and some buy low end suits like mabari and chitin.


Tantel is just about the only non seller...


So what is best ?


For what use, budget, and level of encumbrance ?




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StarchMonkey
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:50 am
#4

Also check if its been sliced or not.


Asstated, comparingUbese Jacket to a Composite chest is not accurate. You need to compare an Ubese Jacket to a Composite chestplate AND both Composite biceps together to see what the HAM is.


With the stats you gave I assume it was an Ubese Helm??? If you were comparing helms, I have never seen a Composite Helm with a Mind of only 75. I'm not even sure if thats possible. Maybe with amazing NS shards/layers, and a perfect slice... I don't even know. Either way, it probably was not a fair comparison between the two.





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Shlo_mo_shun
Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:12 pm
#5

from your post, it looks like you are looking at the HAM costs on a Ubese Helmet, and a composite bracer/bicep/gloves or something like that. They can't be compared.


Ubese helmets are particularly heavy for the suit, and as everyone has pointed out, the jacket takes up the bicep slots too, so you really need to compare full suits. I will say this. I can wear a full suit of my ubese immediately, but i can't even get into my suit of unlayered composite without food. Composite is almost always heavier. If the resists overcome this weight in your opinion, it is better.





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DirthNader
Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:09 am
#6

If you can get it made, I'm a big fan of advanced chitin for grinding. My advanced chitin is around 63%-65% kinetic versus my layered Ubese at 71%-73%, but the chitin armor lasts a bit longer since you don't have one piece taking hits from three slots. The HAM is around the same, and hey, there's gotta be some novelty to being the only guy on Dantooine or Endor heading into combat in chitin.



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