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Ahrimein

Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:22 am

Armorsmiths:

As far as armor goes (taking into account both the availability of resources to craft and it’s potential for protection) which would you consider the most economical and most efficient armor for a new player who just stepped off the boat and is looking to get her feet wet?

EndylArylon

Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:26 am

#2

It has been my experience, on 2 different servers, and in 2 different guilds, that only 2 types of armor are ever bought by experienced players.1) Ubese, mainly for its high Kinetic value, which helps ppl grind their combat characters. 2) Advanced Composite....it has the flexibility to be made into several types, each with extremely high values in whatever the person is looking for. It's very rare to see a serious player in anything else, newbs will often buy others (bone, chitin, etc..) but they are not cost effective.

The resources for Advanced Composite are very exact and hard to find in the quality you will need. That is why Comp costs 4-500k for a good set of PVP armor.

You will probably never sell anything besides these 2 types, so you might as well start working towards them.

I heard a rumor that CH/BE's like padded, but still have never seen any wearing them.

With the prevalence of Buffs in the game, and how cheap they are, the HAM costs of Composite dont even really weigh into the equation.

Tirgwystraff

Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:36 am

#3

EndylArylon wrote:

You will probably never sell anything besides these 2 types, so you might as well start working towards them.

I heard a rumor that CH/BE's like padded, but still have never seen any wearing them.

With the prevalence of Buffs in the game, and how cheap they are, the HAM costs of Composite dont even really weigh into the equation.

Spoken like a true comp/ubese clone, who has never crafted a set of armor outside that template.

Look, for a new player, who PvE's MABERI is your best bet. It is a highly disposable armor that will allow you to fight most low to mid level mobs.

The reason you don't see everyone running around in padded, is because ARMORSMITHS aren't making it, not because it won't sell. I have 5 armorsmith characters on 5 differnt servers. ALL have crafter maberi/ tantel for cash. a couple of them now specialize in maberi armor. I have NEVER has a set sit on my vendor for more than 12 hours. EVEN ON KAURI. On kauri we have at least 3 mastersI know of, selling maberi, and none of us can stay stocked long.
Unlike ubese's 150k price tag, or composites 250k PLUS tag, maberi can be found from 3k for low end to 20k for high end. What's more , it doesn't set your ham back enough to require buffs while playing. I rarely get buffed anymore. I buff for high level missions ( the few I do).

I made my first 15 million before mastering my first, selling maberi armor. I made 50 million AFTER master, also selling maberi, before I ran out of bronzium iron. It's easy to make, the organic requirements are low, and the experimentation is very forgiving. Since only 1 segment is required per part, any enhancements you use will go far ( and you don't have to worrry about serial numbers). Enhancements can double the price you fetch per suit, but doesn't cost nearly that much.

Newmoon Tirgwystraff
Resident of Mr. Ploppy's Turtle-Flavored Ice Cream Kingdom
" English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammer. "

Sobyv

Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:36 am

#4

As a beginner, I suggest Mabari for PvE creatures, which most mission terminals generate. It provides kinetic protection, high end being at 19-20%. Only issue is that it has no energy protection.

If you are working faction missions, then you want bone armor. It's protection varies, but I've made sets with 30% energy protection, and look for at least 20% for your purposes. Also, this set of armor is so light you'll hardly notice it's there.

As an upgrade from this armor, you have 2 options.

1. Chitin. It's got kinetic as a special protection, and decent sets have over 30% kinetic, and I've seen advanced sets with 63% resists. It also has energy protection, but not as high as bone armor.

2. Ubese. Upgrade to ubese when you can afford it. Don't buy anything with less then 60% protection, unless it's dirt cheap. And I mean a full suit for 20k or less. It shares many qualities with chitin, basically being an advanced form of it.

Lastly, if you can find an armorsmith willing to sell you one, look for a PSG mark 1. They will give u an extra layer of energy protection, and they have no encumberance. One PSG 1 should last you a week or two, depending on how heavily you use it and how often you die with it (Item decay) but these go for about 5k each, but you have to ASK an armorsmith to make you one as it is rarely sold in stock.

Hope this helps!

kneelocked

Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:24 am

#5

If you can afford it Adv ubese otherwise.....

-Adv bone or Acklay bone schematic if you can find it is nice

-Mabari if its well made is a great balances armor for PVE and starting faction missions

-Tantel armor is really nice if its well made, but it only has 3 pieces so you rarely see it.

-Chitin Armor is prolly you best bet if you 'just off the boat'. A good set of adv chitin can hit the low 60% kinetic area and a balanced set in the 30%ish base/40%ish kin is great. Low HAM to boot(dont need to buff to wear it). Sells on my server in the 30-40k range

-Padded is too heavy and has too many vuns to be any good, You dont see this armor, exept for looks.

I suggest hitting the bazzar in Theed and Coronet. There are plenty of AS working thier way up the tree who drop their wares there on the cheap. Some masters (like me) drop fails on there as well, so you may be able to score a 55% base comp or a low 60% kinetic ubese there.

Kino

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Ahrimein

Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:04 pm

#6

thank you all. this really gives me some ideas to start with, and it looks like Mabari is the most affordable and effective armor for new players to start with.

one more question, it is my understanding that be tissues placed in the optional slots of fiber panels will not carry over the stat enhancements to the armor itself... is this correct? or is there a suit that is capable of handling this?

KatyJean

Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:02 am

#7

Tirgwystraff wrote:

The reason you don't see everyone running around in padded, is because ARMORSMITHS aren't making it, not because it won't sell. I have 5 armorsmith characters on 5 differnt servers. ALL have crafter maberi/ tantel for cash. a couple of them now specialize in maberi armor. I have NEVER has a set sit on my vendor for more than 12 hours. EVEN ON KAURI. On kauri we have at least 3 mastersI know of, selling maberi, and none of us can stay stocked long.
Unlike ubese's 150k price tag, or composites 250k PLUS tag, maberi can be found from 3k for low end to 20k for high end. What's more , it doesn't set your ham back enough to require buffs while playing. I rarely get buffed anymore. I buff for high level missions ( the few I do).

I'm on Kauri and just a 7 pointer but I make mabari and chitin like MAAAAAD. It sells as fast as I can make it. All the time.

Semirhage
Never logging in again!
Bye, friends!

KatyJean

Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:05 am

#8

Tirgwystraff wrote:

Spoken like a true comp/ubese clone, who has never crafted a set of armor outside that template.

OMFG, ROFL... I love it!!!

/salute Tirgwystraff

My favorite line from a clone is: Mabari? What kind of composite is that?

Semirhage
Never logging in again!
Bye, friends!

Tirgwystraff

Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:20 am

#9

KatyJean wrote:

Tirgwystraff wrote:

The reason you don't see everyone running around in padded, is because ARMORSMITHS aren't making it, not because it won't sell. I have 5 armorsmith characters on 5 differnt servers. ALL have crafter maberi/ tantel for cash. a couple of them now specialize in maberi armor. I have NEVER has a set sit on my vendor for more than 12 hours. EVEN ON KAURI. On kauri we have at least 3 mastersI know of, selling maberi, and none of us can stay stocked long.
Unlike ubese's 150k price tag, or composites 250k PLUS tag, maberi can be found from 3k for low end to 20k for high end. What's more , it doesn't set your ham back enough to require buffs while playing. I rarely get buffed anymore. I buff for high level missions ( the few I do).

I'm on Kauri and just a 7 pointer but I make mabari and chitin like MAAAAAD. It sells as fast as I can make it. All the time.

Thought you were master, sorry. Make that 2 masters and 1 well on her way to master

Not to mention the new names I see on the bazaars all the time.

Newmoon Tirgwystraff
Resident of Mr. Ploppy's Turtle-Flavored Ice Cream Kingdom
" English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammer. "

TalynMox

Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:09 pm

#10

Ahrimein wrote:

one more question, it is my understanding that be tissues placed in the optional slots of fiber panels will not carry over the stat enhancements to the armor itself... is this correct? or is there a suit that is capable of handling this?

Yes, that's correct, any BE enhancements in the tailor sub-comps (Syncloth etc.) will not carry over onto the armour itself. And no, to the best of my knowledge, there aren't any suits where those enhancements do carry over.

Cheers,

Retired after CU, came back for NGE, leaving again...

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