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Thread: Hi to all my fellow armoursmiths

masterartisanman
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:52 am
#1


Hi just thought to pop in to the forums and see what is happening. I would like to say thank you to all the people who have posted guides and tips and who have just talked about what they know about our profession. I myself am not very far into the job i cant even make chitin yet lol, but however i am getting myself set up nicely i have a couple of BER 10 mineral extractors the armour and wearables factory plus the schmetics for synthetic cloth and reinforced fiber panels a 100k steel a few more things to set up and then i hope to be on the road to being a armoursmith, please if anyone has any advice that i can use then please post as i can do with the knowledge and wisdom of my fellow armoursmiths, long may we protect peoples lifes. Aramil.
dsvella
Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:56 am
#2

advice huh ok heres some words of my wisdom:


dont grind uease shirts. yeah they are cheap but u have to make loads 1000's for a couple of lvls. you best bet for speed and cost would be marbri chest plates. simple resourcs (metal, hide, fiberplast, inert pet, syn cloth, armour seg made from metal.) and ALWAYS PRATICE.


also use macros. i am considering making a documented macro thread to show people how to use them.


dont bother trying to sell anything untill master. nobody wants it. all people want comp or really good ubease and you cant make that till 4-0-0-4.


you sound like you are not doing this for a holo so take your time and learn to understand how the profession works. experement with your pratices.


thats all i can think of right now



Bartuc Vanu
Chilistra

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Selling armour, clamps, knives, AUK + WUKS, REPAIR, TOOLS, SWOOPS, X34. SPEEDERBIKES and PAINTINGS too. goto 340, -5796 to have a look!--
Slider067
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:20 pm
#3

Welcome to the community.


The statements below really have no bearing on the "power gamers". As I see it, there is no "winner" in this game. First and foremost...have fun in what you do. I didn't get into the armor business to make tons of money. I thought it would be fun and provide challenges to make good stuff. I was right. I'm also not going to be a slave to my customers. This may result in fewer sales, but I can live with what I'm doing. My goal is to create good armor that the average person can wear.


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First - If you're going to grind anything AND can get the hides, Mabari chests are the way to go. The amount of exp per piece helped save my sanity.


Second - There's a perfectly good market for EXPERIMENTED Mabari. Once I hit the 0004, I always made sure to keep the Bazaar stocked with full suits of it. For 19% (not too hard to do), I was getting around 10kper suitand selling a few to several per day. It kept the harvesters running and made the experience much more fun.


Third - After the tech tree, do the first one (can't remember how it's refered to) and start making Adv. segments for your Mabari. If you've been taking some time to experiment on stuff, you'll know why after the first one you do.


Forth - Have fun. Sometimes I stop worrying with armor and went hunting/exploring. It's not going to go anywhere.





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darylr
Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:36 am
#4


also use macros. i am considering making a documented macro thread to show people how to use them.


dont bother trying to sell anything untill master. nobody wants it. all people want comp or really good ubease and you cant make that till 4-0-0-4.


I would dissagree with this. Macros are great if you can get them to work. They are easy to use, especially with dsvella's great new post, but I find that sometimes lag issues mess me up and frustrate the heck out of me. I don't think they speed things up too much, now that the crafting tool goes to the last schematic automatically.


I would say don't bother trying to sell anything until 0-0-0-4. You can actually unload some marabi on the bazaar for a decent return. Masters don't usually waste time making them, and if you sell them for 2-3k for well crafted ones, people will buy, and I come from one of the most over-populated, over-holo-crafted servers (Bria). if you can get the belts with a socket or two, and educate people on them (you can put an armor SEA in it, and the belt never decays) you could probably get a few k for one.


I would add to leave deflectors for second to last, and layers for last. Deflectors are still majorly bugged, so demand for them is low, as are their usefulness for yourself.


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UmmonPrime
Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:47 am
#5

twilight zone, those last too post have almost the same wording in parts.



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darylr
Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:52 am
#6

That's because I'm a NOOB at posting. I was trying to quote the previous post. It didn't come out like I wanted it to.


Also, I should clarify that PSG's are great, but you have to work around them. You can sell lots of them if you educate people about them. It just is very hard to sell them on the bazaar.


dsvella
Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:31 am
#7







Second - There's a perfectly good market for EXPERIMENTED Mabari. Once I hit the 0004, I always made sure to keep the Bazaar stocked with full suits of it. For 19% (not too hard to do), I was getting around 10kper suitand selling a few to several per day. It kept the harvesters running and made the experience much more fun.


Forth - Have fun. Sometimes I stop worrying with armor and went hunting/exploring. It's not going to go anywhere.






i totally disagree with the second point. as far as i can see there is NO market for anything besides chitin, ubease and comp.

marbri is laughed at ( and rightly so have you looked at your self in a full outfit. its almost as bad as rebbel armour.) and i have yet even at my current capabilty ( 4-2-2-4) to sell any marbri.


the forth point is very true. you will get board if you grind every day. i ground to pa 3 with AUK and that took ages (felt like an age talk to people go hunting or survaying. anything is better than sitting there clickking resources and getting carple tunnel syndrome.



Bartuc Vanu
Chilistra

--Bartucs armour and crafts! Re-stocked often!
Selling armour, clamps, knives, AUK + WUKS, REPAIR, TOOLS, SWOOPS, X34. SPEEDERBIKES and PAINTINGS too. goto 340, -5796 to have a look!--
masterartisanman
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:05 am
#8

Thank you all for your advice and wisdom i hope to hear from you all again soon, i live in the infinity server and there is no armour of any decent quality on the bazaars its hard to find a full set of chitin i think this is due to the cap of 6k for an instant sale i dont know. I was going to go down the route of making some chitin then trying to sell it on the bazaars but after reading some of the replys i dont know if that is such a good idea now, i dont mind going slow in the advancement of the profession as long as i can sell some armour along the way grinding all the time starts to feel like i am missing the point of the armoursmith even newbies can afford chitin so maybe there is amarket for the lower level armour its just is it worth making for the price that we can sell it at? maybe if there are some other armoursmiths on infinity we can get together and discuss a shopping mall just full of armour? i have yet to see one i hope to hear from you all soon Aramil.
Dcopeuk
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:10 am
#9

>totally disagree with the second point. as far as i can see there is NO market for anything besides chitin, ubease and comp

I wouldnt say that im now 4-2-4-4 (nearly there) and make a good return on padded armour around 30%+ base ATM yavin wolly and lokian leather have been very poor on starsider recently,it looks good and can be worn unsliced and un buffed, i suppose ive had a mission to do as i have been supplying my guild with armour for free/help and watching 10 people wearing your armour while blasting a large reb base is very rewarding especially as you can watch your XP increse as you fight, yes theres a lot of hide to collect, but pulling together a hunting party for yavin4 hasnt been a problem so far, and as a rifleman i can hunt maimens solo now anyway so more xp for me!


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Slider067
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:39 am
#10

What exactly are you disagreeing with? The statement that Mabari is sellable or that I sold several suits per day?


I'll assume the first part, as there's no way you can refute the second.


That being the case, it must be server dependent (I'm on Kettemoor). If it is I feel bad for the starting smiths on your server. It really added some fun to get the mail saying the stuff was sold.


btw - As a master, I still make some Mabari and put it on bazaar. I only do this if there isn't any there that's been experimented. I want to give the guys starting a chance to sell some. When a sale is made, I send the buyer a mail thanking them, telling them about stuff on my vendor and provide the WP to the vendor. I've found it to be a great way to advertise. Currently, I can get the base to 25%+. Any noob that's just started killing gorgs will attest to how much it helps.




__________________________________________
Slyder, FS Master Crafter, 12point maker of brand-X armor 2894 5097 Tatooine
Come shop at SPS...it's just as good as the next guy's...
For a small fee, I'll train your chimpanzee how to make armor under the new system
UmmonPrime
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:03 am
#11

Everything sells on the bazaar. I even like being a nice guy andput 80% kinetic on the bazaar for 6k. That is only when I am testing segments though.



Elood- Trader - Retired AS/SW

Elood'- Jedi- I know, I suck. Bite me

Dark Sword, Naboo 6932 2054 Loots


Shlo_mo_shun
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:05 am
#12

Mabari will sell if properly priced on the bazaar. Most of what is there is generic 5% stuff in the generic colors. Sure, nobody wants that for more than 500 credits.Experiment the Base up, and change the colors and it will always sell. Once I got further up the tech tree, I could sell it for about 2-3k per chest. I sold lots of Mabari as I ground up various trees. Once I hit 1-0-0-3 I stopped running missions, and just made Chitin after that. There is definitely a market in a busy city for the lower armors. Once I was making 30%/15% Chitin, I sold it for 6k/3k....and made a nice profit off of it.


Mabari is a great Newb armor....no matter what people say. Even at 10% base, it stops 55% of most creature damage. Chitin fills in the holes pretty well beyond that, with 30% Kinetic Chitin stopping 65% of damage.


Try this, when you set up your macro, leave one of the creations off of PRACTICE. Give it more time, and actually make the item with experimentation and all. Then after a long session of grinding, you should have about 20 of those items. Sell them on the bazaar to make back some of your input. As a novice, there is no reason to have less than your limit of 25 items on the bazaar.


Another thing I did alot of. If you are running survey missions as outlined around here for good money as a novice.....use NumLock to auto-run, then start your macro. Sure, you don't make cash nearly as quick as using a vehicle, but you get xp and cash at the same time. Pretty good for a Novice.





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