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Thread: Pub 20 doesn't have schem fix? Why not?

Okoto
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:38 pm
#1

/rant-on

This is just getting so old. When is the bug with factory schems going to be fixed? I spend hourscrafting just to keep my vendors stocked. This is just nuts.


I'm begging here. Please get this fixed.

/rant-off



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Aroogala
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:59 pm
#2


We know the devs are aware of this problem. I'm willing to bet that they borked this really bad, and that a simple hotfix is not possible. I think theyre spending hours pouring over the code looking for the bug. These isnt something that can be fixed quickly, sadly to say. No amount of whining, ranting, or petitioning is going to make the fix come faster. Just sit back and wait.



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theonebountyhunter
Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:53 am
#3

my money is on that they broke it "accidentally"



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Turkina
Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:28 pm
#4






Aroogala wrote:


We know the devs are aware of this problem. I'm willing to bet that they borked this really bad, and that a simple hotfix is not possible. I think theyre spending hours pouring over the code looking for the bug. These isnt something that can be fixed quickly, sadly to say. No amount of whining, ranting, or petitioning is going to make the fix come faster. Just sit back and wait.






I gotta disagree with you there Natalya - there's not been one case where the devs, or tiggs or any other mouthpiece has come out and said "and we had to work damn hard to find that bug and iron it out". And let's face it, they love to blow their own horn on this stuff. If it was their MO to spend ages dilligently searching out problems in the codebase, then these sort of bugs wouldn't have happened in the first place.


It's just not their style unfortunately. On the flipside, what we do know is that they keep close tabs on how "pissed off" people are getting and that does seem to influence their actions. Look at the CU, even ol' Smed came and posted in an effort to calm the masses. I don't think a weekly "Fix the Bugs!" thread does any harm at all. I think it lets any stray eye that wanders over this forum know we're still here, still waiting patiently, and still pretty pissed about everything; and I can't think of a better message to constantly send to them.

Message Edited by Turkina on 07-09-2005 03:30 PM

Kharn
Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:06 pm
#5

Odd, I thought the first, second, and third armor holes were 'hard to fix'..... as well as the shifting protections on psgs......



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Meuw
Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:55 pm
#6






Okoto wrote:

/rant-on

This is just getting so old. When is the bug with factory schems going to be fixed? I spend hourscrafting just to keep my vendors stocked. This is just nuts.


I'm begging here. Please get this fixed.

/rant-off





That is why you are a crafter and not a factory manager.



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Boonsnark
Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:54 pm
#7

oh well looks like at least another month or 2 where i get to do nothing except craft armor, and hunt resouces..............Maybe I will get to do my Ace mission......one day .......if i dont end up burning out and quitting by then

Message Edited by Boonsnark on 07-09-2005 11:54 PM



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Boonsnark
Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:58 pm
#8






Meuw wrote:





Okoto wrote:

/rant-on

This is just getting so old. When is the bug with factory schems going to be fixed? I spend hourscrafting just to keep my vendors stocked. This is just nuts.


I'm begging here. Please get this fixed.

/rant-off





That is why you are a crafter and not a factory manager.





Yeah, we are but I would be nice to have time to do something other than craft all day, trying to keep armor in stock, only to find that it sells quicker than I can make it, atm the only solution I can see to calm it down a bit, is a price increase which I dont want to do. Leave handcrafting faction as it is but fix the damn factories!!!!



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BigfootKC
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:57 am
#9



Meuw wrote:


Okoto wrote:
/rant-on
This is just getting so old. When is the bug with factory schems going to be fixed? I spend hours crafting just to keep my vendors stocked. This is just nuts.
I'm begging here. Please get this fixed.
/rant-off



That is why you are a crafter and not a factory manager.





we can operate the factories just as well as anyone else... that would logically make us factory managers as well as armorsmiths



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Meuw
Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:59 am
#10

Shouldn't be afraid to raise prices boonsnark, as I have discussed elsewhere in this forum there are a couple things that determine price: cost(materials, etc..), overhead(employees, service charges, factory and housing costs), supply and demand.


Obviously our supply is lower right now because we have to hand craft them, so he price should rise. The demand is now higher too since armorsmiths are much more scarce and the armor deteriorates much faster. So the price should rise there too.


In the end it is not our fault that we make a truckload making armor. The fault is SOE for being so ignorant of the true problems with the games economy. Charge what your product is worth. If it is too expensive for most the galaxy then so be it, SOE needs to fix the problem and make armor easier to craft by not requiring such ridiculous resources. They have made the entire profession into a joke. Only a handful of the AS have the ability to make the max stats armor and that is all most people want. I sell armor that is 400 points lower than the max on my server and charge less than half what they charge, and still I am making more moeny than I really have a right to(not that I keep it anyhow, I support a guild and a town by just my sales)


So this bug, while I think it is good for us as crafter, is very bad for the economy. It makes what is already a vastly overpriced product into the realm of being ludicrous. 1.5 million for a composite armor suit....my goodness the Devs really must be "special".





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pykescylla
Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:35 pm
#11

I'm a little more depressed. I just uncrated some ubese jackets made right after the CU and before this whole factory-color bug. They came out in the default color. Sigh, this is why I'm on my way out.


BTW, I thought I saw the horse move . . .





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captenjonny
Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:40 am
#12

Why not?


Because the game, the devs and SOE do not give a flying rat's keester about the crafting professions, the entertainment professions or any profession that does not swing a lightstick, an axe or shoot.


They only care about the teen aged boys killing things!



-Hey - but they turned the candles back on!


/rantoff





Captain Jonny
Kesslan
Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:26 pm
#13

Yeah it's rather annoying. But personally since I wound up dealing with ALOT of custom orders on bria. I wound up not boterhing with factory runs of armor. So my output is much lwoer but my proffit margin is pretty good. I'm generaly charging bout 3x the cost of the armor. ANd it sells pretty much as fast as I stock it. Stuff doesnt sit around terribly long except when my selection gets low. Which it does. I'd probably make a killing factory running it. But. I kinda like diversity.


And its still paying well enough that i'm pretty much outfitting all my guildmates for free. (A few buy it now and then or what ever is convinent for them. But I'm still giving away tons of suits for free. Usualy get skill tapes, chef foods etc other things I need for free in return.)





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