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Thread: Feasible to go Master AS?

ocili
Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:03 am
#1

Ok, after playing this game for 1 year now, strictly as a Combat toon, I figured it was time to get an alt and give crafting a try. Since I already had a few armorsmith and artisan cas, I figured I would go with the following template:


Master Artisan
Master Armorsmith
Master Merchant
Driod Engineer: x/x/x/3 (to make my own bh driods)

Tailor: x/2/x/x (to make my own Reinforced Fiber Panels)


Plus once I got there, pick up a few lines in FS for Crafting and Surveying.


Well, I know a few crafters who basically told me I was afool to try and go into Armorsmith or Weaponsmith for that matter, as I will never be able to compete with the crafters who have been around for quite some time and have all of the long out of shift uber resources that I would need to make anything worth while. Or else I would need a few 100 million to buy every single 30k Free Resource kit I could get my hands on.


Well, the option of buying up all the resource kits ain't gonna happen. I have spent a lot of time and money building a nice collection of loot that I will never sell, so I only have like 40-50 million now. While I know I wouldn't be able to jump into crafting and be proffitable right away, as I know I will probally be spending a few months just collecting some decent resources before I even start, I just want to have some fun and break even or make a little profit.


So really my question is:


With todays long time crafters having the market of product and resources to craft it with, am I getting in over my head here? Do I even stand a chance?


Thanks for your thoughts.



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LeviticusD
Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:07 am
#2

You can do it! There is a pretty big market for armor and you will be able to find your niche. You WILL have to be patient at first as it is difficult, but not impossible, to get the required resources. The fact of the matter is, with the bugs and dumbing down of the armor crafting system, many of the old smith are burning out or slowing down. If you are willingto take your time to really get into full production, you will be fine and you will have customers.




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QuarEstee
Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:15 am
#3

Watch your galaxy trade forum for smiths going out of business and selling their stuff ... or other artisans doing the same. Don't forget to do a vendor search either. Oh, and beg borrow and/or steal from friends/guildies.

Well, maybe not the last bit there.



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darthbock
Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:21 pm
#4

Just like what was said above, it takes a good deal of patience gathering resources, btu it pays off. In the mean time, try to focus one one type of armor to sell for money as you bolster your resources. If you can manage to cap one type unlayered, you will have no problems selling. Also, as a side not, if you ever plan on making wookiee armor, you need fieldwear 3 from tailor for armor paddings.



Good luck!





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RPMayhem
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:07 pm
#5

I've been an AS for about 4 months. I was a shipwright at the same time, so I never actually started to gather resources for armor until about 2 1/2 months ago. In 2 1/2 months (plus a little bit of resources left over from SW), I can make 5999 Battle armor (1 point from cap ). while I wish it was 6000, I'm very happy I've reached that in 2 1/2 months. The key was patience. Just watch the resources, collect what you need. You will eventually discover you have enough to make good segments, then enough to turn those into good cores!
I highly recommend using this tool to see the best resources. Don't forget to go check some resources yourself and contribute updates to swgcraft.com



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HzGuderian
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:55 pm
#6

I came into the AS scene after there were some pretty well-established crafters on the galaxy already, and had no problems making some sales. Crafters come and go, many more players come and go that need armor. Especially if you have the help of your guild, you can often find some sweet deals on good resources and boost your armor stats that way. I haven't managed the really elite stuff I see on my server somtimes, but I do hit 7-7.5k primary stat armors on Recon and Assault. I haven't managed battle yet, since the advanced cores take Nabooian Bristley, which hasn't had a decent spawn in ages on Ahazi.


the other thing I do to get a few credits on the side and keep the business running is to get the armor cores I or my friends loot off their random mobs that they fight. The stats can be crap, but they are cores all ready to go. I usually sell them for low prices for newer or down-on-their-luck players.






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NiBorg
Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:12 pm
#7

There is also a large market for the not "perfect" armor. Dont stress hitting the max, just do what you can. and try not to burn up uber resources with crap ones as you will kick yourself later.
JediSpam
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:58 pm
#8






NiBorg wrote:
There is also a large market for the not "perfect" armor. Dont stress hitting the max, just do what you can. and try not to burn up uber resources with crap ones as you will kick yourself later.





QFE


Do what you can with whatever you have in abundance of. Save the rare/uber stuff (and 30K deeds) for later when you need it.


Also, when first starting out, you will constantly be upgrading your armor with newer resources, so never make more than you can sell.





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Rikilii
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:15 am
#9






ocili wrote:

Ok, after playing this game for 1 year now, strictly as a Combat toon, I figured it was time to get an alt and give crafting a try. Since I already had a few armorsmith and artisan cas, I figured I would go with the following template:


Master Artisan
Master Armorsmith
Master Merchant
Driod Engineer: x/x/x/3 (to make my own bh driods)

Tailor: x/2/x/x (to make my own Reinforced Fiber Panels)


Plus once I got there, pick up a few lines in FS for Crafting and Surveying.


Well, I know a few crafters who basically told me I was afool to try and go into Armorsmith or Weaponsmith for that matter, as I will never be able to compete with the crafters who have been around for quite some time and have all of the long out of shift uber resources that I would need to make anything worth while. Or else I would need a few 100 million to buy every single 30k Free Resource kit I could get my hands on.


Well, the option of buying up all the resource kits ain't gonna happen. I have spent a lot of time and money building a nice collection of loot that I will never sell, so I only have like 40-50 million now. While I know I wouldn't be able to jump into crafting and be proffitable right away, as I know I will probally be spending a few months just collecting some decent resources before I even start, I just want to have some fun and break even or make a little profit.


So really my question is:


With todays long time crafters having the market of product and resources to craft it with, am I getting in over my head here? Do I even stand a chance?


Thanks for your thoughts.






You could also try to buy up some 30K resource deeds to help you fill in the gaps of your resource needs, at least to get you started.


Start off by religiously mining and hunting the needed resources for about a month. Get as many "good" resources as you can, and use 30Ks to fill the gaps.


Pick one type of armor that is hardest to find and most in demand, and focus on that.


If you can't make the best armor at first, make decent armor and sell it significantly cheaper than the other ASs on your server.....as long as it's not crap, people will probably buy it if it's cheap.



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pykescylla
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:23 am
#10

And it is flat out wrong to say you can never compete with the established crafters on your server. I'll bet few of us here have been armorsmiths since launch. They'll have the good ol' resources but good new ones WILL spawn.

Message Edited by pykescylla on 09-23-2005 05:31 PM



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kensaii
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:33 am
#11

I've only been an MAS for about 1.5 to 2 mths and I read these forums over and over again, post after post. These guys know what they are talking about. I've only made 2 runs of armour cores and I'm already hitting my mark for capped cores in recon and assault, battle is alittle bit more elusive since the Corr Fibeplast is crap on Infinity.

I started collecting resources that I needed for AS early in my career with Artisian Eng 3. As soon as I was able to create Personal Extractors I was collecting what I can in resources needed for AS, also some diligent vendor searches and you can get the best resources possible.


Since your a Jedi you can probably spare 100k-200k per harvestor to starting placing them down now. You'd probably have about 15-20 lots with your ALT included.


I guess if you can grind jedi you might be able to grind AS, and you can feel the love of Ribbed Shirts that every MAS has



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