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Thread: AP3 vs special protection.

AmgineEX
Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:57 pm
#1

Let's say that someone his me with a t21(i think it's energy damage) for 100dmgand my composite has 50% energy as a special protection. Does that basically reduce the t21 to AP1 quality, IE: i'll take only 50damage as opposed to taking 100x1.25^2?



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GoodToTheTouch
Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:23 am
#2

well first off if you have ARP1 and you get shot by ARP0 it does 50% less damage, if its ARP1 vs. ARP1 then its 25% less damage so..

you have APR1, T21 has APR3, so T21 does 25% of 25% of 25% of regular damage, and if I understand correctly special protection means take away say 70-80% of the damage, what ever special protection equates to, resists would be like 90% resists, add 10% of damage taken from the ARP1.......

at least I think thats how it all works, I know the 25% thing is true.....
MrMud
Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:51 am
#3

T21 = AP3, say 100 damage


Compo =AR1 +50% resist


Damage = 100 * 1.25 * 1.25 * 0.5 = 78.125



Every number of AP higher than your AR will multiply the damage by 1.25. Since AP3 is 2 steps higher than AR1 its 1.25 * 1.25




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AmgineEX
Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:30 am
#4

i believe special protection functions differently than effectiveness.



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JaatoWaals
Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:24 am
#5

All testing indicates that special protection does not offer any benefits over standard resists. It simply is experimented independantly and at a higher rate and cannot be sliced.



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AmgineEX
Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:40 am
#6

Thank you



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DrVentus
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:21 am
#7

Has anyone ever taken a a 50% effective energy chest piece, shot at it with an identical weapon and shot....then run the same experiment on a 50% special protection energy armor piece?That would be the definitive test.A few of us are testing some similar theories andweare seeingdifferences.



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JaatoWaals
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:54 am
#8

I did do that, but it was months ago. May be time to run some new tests to make sure that nothing hasn't been changed while we weren't looking


Also, to really run the test properly you need to have a full suit of composite. The problem is that you are only going to get hit in the chest around 20% of the time. 80% of the time you're going to take full damage- which is going to kill you pretty fast if you're being shot at with a T-21. You also don't need to have 50% armor- you can do the test with any suit of armor as long as the resists on all the pieces are the same. Just remember to factor the resists into the standard equation and you should be fine.


Once again, our understanding of how the system works is that Special Resists function identically to Effectiveness (base resists). You should see exactly the same percentage of damage blocked while wearing a suit of composite with a 50% base resist to energy as you would while wearing a suit of composite with a 50% special resist to energy if you are shot with an AP3 weapon that does energy damage.





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