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Thread: Yet another Question, this time about layers

theonebountyhunter
Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:23 pm
#1

ok here are some kinetic layers i made



1.) 3/5/3 2% Base 6% Kinetic


2/) 3/3/5 2% Base 6% Kinetic


Would it make sense to use two of 1. and one of 2 to make the segment?



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eldiablotejano
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:29 am
#2

Those will be crap.


You need all ten experimentation points to get yourself some 4%/9% layers. Everything less than this is crap. Resources, especially a certain type of metal, help.




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JeCy
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:35 am
#3

it all depends on what you are making.. dont listen to that other person.. ohh thats crap..


im sure he has never come close to making a suit of 60+% comp at under 350 ham....



Je'Cy Dax


Shortey
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:37 am
#4

Dude, 4%/9% layers???


**edit** you smokin ... That is definately some overkill there... I (and many others likely) am hitting 80% kinetic using segments with only 13% Kinetic on them... you got what... 27K and 30-32B on your segments... WAYyy overkill


However to address the original question, I think you should make some new layers... Basically if you can get one of those HAM's down to 3, you can get all of them down to 3... so keep grinding away at those layers until you get that perfect schematic... sure, you are going to burn through a ton of them and can either make discount gloves or just ditch them if you want... But again using three 6/2 layers will likely be overkill (depending on your other resources of course) ... it would be worth attmempting to get some 3/3/3 4/3 layers and try two of those with a 3/3/3 6/2


Shortey
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:40 am
#5

woah dude, I don't even think my Unlayered stuff comes at under 350 HAM... that must be some crazy good stuff, or a full set of NS armor...
theonebountyhunter
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:31 am
#6

basically what i was trying to do was lower my encum.


i don't remember the exact stats on my original kinetic but just trying to hit 80%. either way I know i wasted some points in the layers b/c i hit 80% b4 i spend my last points on the piece itself. my base is 62% i think they were 3% base 7% kinetic layers. basically just looking for a lower encum suit wasn't sure if anyone ever had layers with different encum like that b4 and if they ever mixed them.


also on a side note yeah i didn't pay any attention to the jackass that responded first



Brutas / Raah
WOOK, Mos Kashyyyk, Tatooine, Eclipse
Winnings @ -6672 -5060 any Vendor
theonebountyhunter
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:35 am
#7

thanks for the info shorty i'll just screw around with it later tonight, but anyway thanks again peace



Brutas / Raah
WOOK, Mos Kashyyyk, Tatooine, Eclipse
Winnings @ -6672 -5060 any Vendor
Dova
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:08 am
#8

It's easy to see if you are wasting points on special (Kinetic in this case). Three layers at 7% each plus a base of 62 will produce 83% Kinetic minimum. You're capped at 80% so you are obviously wasting points. I use three 2/6 1/1/1 layers (I'm a 12 pointer) and I hit 80 Kinetic/61 Base with pretty darned low HAM cost. If I were you I'd shoot for 2/6 layers and you should be able to get 3/3/3 HAM cost if you're chugging port and eating cake in a Research Center. Good luck.


The guy using 4/9 layers simply doesn't have a clue. With a base of 4% on the layers he should be able to hit 80% Kinetic with just 4% Kinetic in the layers. He's wasting points on special that he should be using to reduce HAM cost.


theonebountyhunter
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:31 am
#9

i'm chugging port but what are you talking about eating cake, what is the name of this cake u refer to? thanks i can't hit 3/3/3 for somereason there is always one stat with 5 but i guess i'll just try for a nother few hours tonight anyway thanks for all the info guys/gals



Brutas / Raah
WOOK, Mos Kashyyyk, Tatooine, Eclipse
Winnings @ -6672 -5060 any Vendor
Dova
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:25 pm
#10

Bespian Port
Dova
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:51 am
#11

Pyrollian Cake gives you an Assembly Bonus. An Amazing at Assembly could be the boost you need to get 3/3/3 layers for HAM.
Equuluson
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:59 am
#12

Learn something new every day, Whats the name of this "port" Please.....


will have to grab me some "snacks" for my crafting sessions





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ak420
Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:48 am
#13

bespin port doesn't give me a exp bonus, it seems to be an assembly bonus. is this right?



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