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Thread: Primus Layered Protection Cap for Factional Armor

J-J
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:39 pm
#1



I am pretty convinced that I have hit the cap for three types, and would like someone to give me their view on this and also hopefully verify that as well.


These are the stats of my stuff:


Shock Trooper Armor

Kinetic 7527/Energy 5527/Elementials 5467

Condition 71k plus



Strom Trooper Armor

Kinetic/Energy 6529/Elementials 5471

Condition 70K plus



Scout Trooper Armor

Kinetic 5529/Energy 7529/Elementials 5471

Conditon 71k plus


The hindrance on all the above all equal to 120% for the 3 totalled.

Thanks in advance!


Message Edited by J-J on 07-13-2005 07:49 PM

Message Edited by J-J on 07-13-2005 07:55 PM



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darthbock
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:49 pm
#2

The cap on ahazi using primus is +541 to kin/en, which is higher than what you have there. I think the absolute cap is +600 to kin/en.



The 'absolute' cap would come from using simple layers, such as energy or kinetic, and is 8200 for a single resist.





Aedyl Voivai
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darthbock
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:50 pm
#3

The hindrance comes into account before the layers. Your unlayered armor is capped, meaning you will have 6000 elemental in the absence of layering, and thus your hindrance is capped because it is tied directly to unlayered elemental resists.



Aedyl Voivai
Crafter of Fine RIS and Mandalorian Armor
~Warden Armor Works~
Vendors in the ~Violet Accomplice~ Tent
-3348 5910 Tranquility, Naboo
Aroogala
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:51 pm
#4


hmm

Message Edited by Aroogala on 07-13-200507:51 PM

Message Edited by Aroogala on 07-13-2005 07:51 PM



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CaileSathinor
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:56 pm
#5

I know I can hit 8071 energy on my quad energy layered suits.



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J-J
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:56 pm
#6






darthbock wrote:
The hindrance comes into account before the layers. Your unlayered armor is capped, meaning you will have 6000 elemental in the absence of layering, and thus your hindrance is capped because it is tied directly to unlayered elemental resists.





sorry i changed the title of the thread, i meant the primus layed cap



philippine | 12pt ris armorsmith | 12 pt weaponsmith | 14 pt artistan
{BioTech Armor} manufacturer of 450+ sets of imp armor & 80+ sets of ris armor
{BioTech Industries} resouces | be clothes | premium enhanced weapons | uber pups
all vendors located at city of ceres, talus -2988 1598
j-j prum | dark jedi padawan | generally a noob
Aroogala
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:57 pm
#7






CaileSathinor wrote:
I know I can hit 8071 energy on my quad energy layered suits.




Grr you beat me.



Natalya Ba-an
12-point Armorsmith::-Retired-::R.I.S. Certified 12/19/04
On 04-23-2004 08:28 PM GarVa Wrote" "ban you faster than you can say shizzle"
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I have returned to you Intrepid.
-CoN-
darthbock
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:00 pm
#8


Those earlier replies came out jumbled. The basic gist of what I was trying to say is that you have reached the unlayered cap on your cores (final piece unlayered cap being 7k kin 5k en 6k base assault, 5k kin 7k en 6k base recon, and 6k to all battle).


Perfect 4x primus will add 600 to kin/en and remove 600 from the base. In your case, you are getting +527 kin/en and -527 base, which is close, but not capped. I used the ahazi cap for primus of +541 (or the +539 in my sig) to show that you can still go higher.


Now, you used your max'd out hinderances as your reason for thinking you were capped. This is partially true, but not entirely. This is because the hinderance is tied directly to the unlayered base, and has nothing to do with how good your layers are. So, in short you are at your unlayered cap and need only to focus on better layer resources to push your resists further.



I hope it was less of a ramble that time


Message Edited by darthbock on 07-13-2005 08:02 PM



Aedyl Voivai
Crafter of Fine RIS and Mandalorian Armor
~Warden Armor Works~
Vendors in the ~Violet Accomplice~ Tent
-3348 5910 Tranquility, Naboo
CaileSathinor
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:05 pm
#9



Aroogala wrote:


CaileSathinor wrote:
I know I can hit 8071 energy on my quad energy layered suits.


Grr you beat me.





/flex

I'm so hawt. LOL



Valcyn's hawtest AS Caile Sathinor married to Naea
12 Point/+25 Assembly Master Armorsmith Retired Armorsmith Correspondent RIS Certified
J-J
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:07 pm
#10






darthbock wrote:


Those earlier replies came out jumbled. The basic gist of what I was trying to say is that you have reached the unlayered cap on your cores (final piece unlayered cap being 7k kin 5k en 6k base assault, 5k kin 7k en 6k base recon, and 6k to all battle).


Perfect 4x primus will add 600 to kin/en and remove 600 from the base. In your case, you are getting +527 kin/en and -527 base, which is close, but not capped. I used the ahazi cap for primus of +541 (or the +539 in my sig) to show that you can still go higher.


Now, you used your max'd out hinderances as your reason for thinking you were capped. This is partially true, but not entirely. This is because the hinderance is tied directly to the unlayered base, and has nothing to do with how good your layers are. So, in short you are at your unlayered cap and need only to focus on better layer resources to push your resists further.



I hope it was less of a ramble that time



Message Edited by darthbock on 07-13-2005 08:02 PM





many thanks!



philippine | 12pt ris armorsmith | 12 pt weaponsmith | 14 pt artistan
{BioTech Armor} manufacturer of 450+ sets of imp armor & 80+ sets of ris armor
{BioTech Industries} resouces | be clothes | premium enhanced weapons | uber pups
all vendors located at city of ceres, talus -2988 1598
j-j prum | dark jedi padawan | generally a noob
Danathal
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:08 pm
#11






CaileSathinor wrote:





Aroogala wrote:





CaileSathinor wrote:
I know I can hit 8071 energy on my quad energy layered suits.




Grr you beat me.







/flex

I'm so hawt. LOL




8111 Energy.. Chilastra First I believe!




Danatal!
RoH
Dan 'N' Esh. 5/15/06


darthbock
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:09 pm
#12






Danathal wrote:





CaileSathinor wrote:





Aroogala wrote:





CaileSathinor wrote:
I know I can hit 8071 energy on my quad energy layered suits.




Grr you beat me.







/flex

I'm so hawt. LOL




8111 Energy.. Chilastra First I believe!





8123 on Ahazi, and I seem to remember hearing of better someplace else. Go-go gadget luck of the draw on resource spawns

Message Edited by darthbock on 07-13-2005 08:10 PM



Aedyl Voivai
Crafter of Fine RIS and Mandalorian Armor
~Warden Armor Works~
Vendors in the ~Violet Accomplice~ Tent
-3348 5910 Tranquility, Naboo
CaileSathinor
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:20 pm
#13

We had a new Plexite spawn a few weeks ago, so I need to check and see.



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12 Point/+25 Assembly Master Armorsmith Retired Armorsmith Correspondent RIS Certified
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