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Thread: Viability of 30k kits.

ga1352
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:09 pm
#1

are 30k kits viable in the AS profession. say you were focusing soley on one type of armor like RIS would your profit go over the amount u spent selling 6 mil a suit and buying 30k kits at 3 mil.



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darthbock
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:06 pm
#2

How many resources are you lacking? If you are filling in a few gaps - no problem, if you are using a kit for almost eveyrthing, you will be hemorrhaging cash.



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QuarEstee
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:12 pm
#3

This is just a rough estimate, mind you.

Looking through my notes, it looks like you can get by with 17 30k resource deeds if you want to get the best resources for everything you'd need to make layered RIS. 17 X 3mil = 51mil expenses.

At 6mil a suit, you'd have to sell 9 suits to break even.

Some of the resources needed for layers use roughly 3000 units per suit. So, you should be able to get at least 10 full suits from those 30k deeds. 10 x 6mil = 60mil.

60mil - 51mil = PROFIT! ... but I'm not sure if it's worth all the effort to get that many deeds. If you can manage to scrape enough good resources together so that you only need, say, 6 30k deeds, you'll make a lot more money (of course). Oh, and if you can manage to use those deeds on resources that have low unit/suit costs, you can stretch out their value even more.



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mcpryon
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:21 pm
#4

Not to mention thanks to the wonderful caps you can get away with using substandard resources in the mix, too, so that can save you a kit or two.





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Thula
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:50 pm
#5

Unless you intend to hunt all those GDK, Gurks and Woolamanders yourself, you need to factor that into the cost too. The profit will be shrinking rapidly...


But you will rarely need 30k kits for all resources, focus on the layer resources first and then the named resources for cores. It should be possible to find decent steel / iron / fiberplast and polymer on the market.





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Saylah
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:10 am
#6

dunno how it's on your server .. but currently theressi deed prices are ona steep rise on Infinity .... sometimes p to 5millions or even more.



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ToriStarshaker
Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:53 am
#7


/agree it is 132 layers a suit lol





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ga1352
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:42 pm
#8

ty for the info what about unlayered. right now layered RIS is going for 15-20 mil. And a lot more work



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MonKaiku
Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:24 pm
#9

1000 layers make less than 3 suits


think about that before you start breaking out the kits


36 layers per core adds up fast (11 cores x 36 layers=396 layers per suit)





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ga1352
Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:21 pm
#10

yeah what about not using layers should i only use kits for the resources in the final combine and scan the vendor search for the stuff for the cores.



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pykescylla
Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:36 pm
#11



MonKaiku wrote:

1000 layers make less than 3 suits

think about that before you start breaking out the kits

36 layers per core adds up fast (11 cores x 36 layers=396 layers per suit)




Wait, what am I missing?

Four layers per segment, three segments per core, eleven cores per suit: 4 layers x 3 segments x 11 cores = 132 layers per suit

Right?



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ToriStarshaker
Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:04 pm
#12


/agree it is 132 layers a suit lol





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JediSpam
Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:07 pm
#13






pykescylla wrote:


Four layers per segment, three segments per core, eleven cores per suit: 4 layers x 3 segments x 11 cores = 132 layers per suit

Right?





Right.




And to the oroginal poster, if you can get by without using a deed, keep it for a rainy day.

You will eventually NEED it even after you can cap everything.

30K won't go a very long way and you'll regret using it later when you really need it.


I've gone through only about 6 deeds this year,but may it's becausewe've been pretty lucky getting nice shifts of pretty much everything needed for armor on our server. I only need it for Plexite and Chromite. Everything else I can use stuff that spawned in the past 6 months.




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