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Well, just wasted my 11th and 12th left bracers in my insane quest to make a full 4 socket R.I.S. suit. Every piece is +50 health and it's getting embarrassingly expensive.

There is no point to this post other than to take a break from punching myself in the face. Okay, back to work.

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mcpryon wrote:
Well, just wasted my 11th and 12th left bracers in my insane quest to make a full 4 socket R.I.S. suit. Every piece is +50 health and it's getting embarrassingly expensive.

There is no point to this post other than to take a break from punching myself in the face. Okay, back to work.

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Yeah, that's what I'm doing, but I haven't sold any for almost a week now. I thought +50 health pieces would sell a little better. And they aren't high priced for my server. Oh well, there have to be some non-Jedi left to buy them.

I'll get my suit one of these days, but it's discouraging when you spend an hour making cores that get used in a minute, or when you make over a dozen of one piece with nothing better than 2 sockets.

Try using high OQ materials in your subcomponents. Don't go and factory run 1000 rfp's and synth cloths with high oq subs, but make a few and make armor with them to see what happens. Someone recentlyposted compelling results over on the tailor boards, but their sample size was very limited. They made 4 items where all ingredients for the primary combine and subcomponents where 950+ oq and then made 3 where the subcomps and primary ingredients were all about 100 OQ. Theyended up with4 sockets on all of the high OQ samples and 0-1 sockets on all of the low OQ samples.

And don't forget to sacrifice a wookiee to the socket gods!

Message Edited by LeviticusD on 09-20-2005 11:50 AM

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LeviticusD wrote:

And don't forget to sacrifice a wookiee to the socket gods!

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HEY! I resemble that remark!!

As for testing something with 5 possible outcomes (0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 sockets) with 4 attempts, the results aren't even close to being meaningful. Do 50 high quality and 50 lo quality items, and then you'll be able to see if there are any meaningful trends.

If it's any consolation ... was just trying to make a 4 socket BE'd shirt ... hit it on try #10. Nice little lesson on the difference between the Law of Probability and the Law of Large Numbers....

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QuarEstee wrote:

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LeviticusD wrote:

And don't forget to sacrifice a wookiee to the socket gods!

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HEY! I resemble that remark!!

As for testing something with 5 possible outcomes (0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 sockets) with 4 attempts, the results aren't even close to being meaningful. Do 50 high quality and 50 lo quality items, and then you'll be able to see if there are any meaningful trends.

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That is why I said it was a very small sample size and brought it up as an observation rather than a concrete relationship.

The relationship between customization and socketing was tested with rigor about 15 months ago - I think the tailors involved tested about 1000 of the sameitem per variable change. Their results showed the probability function to be a bell curve whose center migrated from 1 to 3 sockets as customization increased. Experimentation and assembly bonuses were both tested at various stages using clothing and eliminated as factors.

A small group are adamant about the relationshipbetween sockets and resourceOQ, but it has not been tested with rigor. It could be that OQ is another skewing factor, if it has any bearing at all.

I'll try facing west and only crafting during a full moon, too. Does the color of the sacrificed Wookiee's fur matter?

I don't know why I thought of this but when I first started playing the game I thought sockets were for putting cargo pockets in so you could have more storage, like a big backpack for camping. Of course, back then we thought unlocking your FSCS was somehow tied to the number of pikets you killed.

Well, there's not going to be a shortage of left bracers on Chilastra, just failed attempts 13 through 16, every one had 1 socket. And I'm realizing how fast resources and layers go.

Ugh.

Edited to note 9 bracers in a row with 1 socket. Wow.

Message Edited by mcpryon on 09-20-2005 08:03 PM

This may be just coincidences but I found when i dont use polly cake that I have much better outcomes with regards to sockets. Someone had metioned in a thread that if your assembly is already very high like if you already have armor assembly ca's maxed out and your in a research city, etc. Adding the polly cake has a negative effect. I tried not using it and I ended up getting better results w/out it. I cant explain it but so far its working.

If you dont have your assembly capped then I wouldnt worry bout it. Or who knows its probably all just crazy swg superstitions.

I find this issue to be strictly correllated with chance and no more...Some days I hit 4 sockets 75% of the time and others 25% of the time. Even with Pyollian cakes, +25 assembly and hi quality resourses an armorsmith can still get 1 or 2 sockets. However I seem to have excellent "luck" with BH and Faction armors, on the flip side Health enahnced armors seem to give me the most trouble. Finally I havent done any indepth scientific testing(seems ridiculous)on sockets this is just from my experienceof crafting 100's of custom sets by hand.