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Thread: RIS ARMOR, PLZ HELP.....

Dalis
Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:34 pm
#1

hello all, im Dalis.

im not a Armor smith but me and a buddy who is are trying to put together a set of RIS armor. we know all the standard stuff but what we are getting hung up on is the 'extras' that u can put in.


ok here is a list of what we have so far:


14 Gurk Hides

5 Woolamander Harrower Bones

3 GDK Scales

The INterwoven Schem

all the resources needed


ok with all ^^^this stuff i know what to do, and that i need more Bones and GDK Scales. but its with the other components that i have been getting conflicting reports.


ok here are the 'extra' stuff that i have:


5 NS Armor Shards {Exceptional} H: -20 A: -70 M: -64

4 NS Armor Shards H: -47 A: -32 M: -26

5 NS Armor Layers 9% BAse Effect -7 A


now i also have the possible opportunity to get some 28% base effect Acklay Hides, but dont KNow whether those can be used in RIS.




if someone should tell me what out of these i should keep and use and what else i should be looking for i would appreciate it very very much



thx



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TalynMox
Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:45 pm
#2


Dalis wrote:
hello all, im Dalis.
im not a Armor smith but me and a buddy who is are trying to put together a set of RIS armor. we know all the standard stuff but what we are getting hung up on is the 'extras' that u can put in.
ok here is a list of what we have so far:
14 Gurk Hides
5 Woolamander Harrower Bones
3 GDK Scales
The INterwoven Schem
all the resources needed

Don't forget you'll need to have Geonosian Power cubes for this, with as many in large identical sets as possible due to the limited-use nature of the interwoven schematic

ok with all ^^^this stuff i know what to do, and that i need more Bones and GDK Scales. but its with the other components that i have been getting conflicting reports.
ok here are the 'extra' stuff that i have:
5 NS Armor Shards {Exceptional} H: -20 A: -70 M: -64
4 NS Armor Shards H: -47 A: -32 M: -26
5 NS Armor Layers 9% BAse Effect -7 A

Ok, for the interwoven option I'd be reluctant to even consider using those enhancers due to the limited-uses on the schem. However, for regular RIS my advice would be to collect more - with your aim being 5% base or better layers, any kind of Janta hide (the bigger the base resist the better), and yellow-drop NS shards (ie. above average). This will then allow your smith to use one or more layers, and one enhancer in the segment (note: for normal RIS these won't need to be identical as only one seg is needed for each piece of armour) which will yield some very very nice results. Of course, if you can find 10+ series of any of those (and a 10+ group of geo cubes) then go straight to Interwoven and collect your shiney new suit there

now i also have the possible opportunity to get some 28% base effect Acklay Hides, but dont KNow whether those can be used in RIS.

Acklay hide replaces padded armour segments, and so can't be used in RIS I'm afraid...




Hope this helps some



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Dalis
Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:32 pm
#3






TalynMox wrote:




Dalis wrote:

hello all, im Dalis.

im not a Armor smith but me and a buddy who is are trying to put together a set of RIS armor. we know all the standard stuff but what we are getting hung up on is the 'extras' that u can put in.


ok here is a list of what we have so far:


14 Gurk Hides

5 Woolamander Harrower Bones

3 GDK Scales

The INterwoven Schem

all the resources needed

Don't forget you'll need to have Geonosian Power cubes for this, with as many in large identical sets as possible due to the limited-use nature of the interwoven schematic



ok with all ^^^this stuff i know what to do, and that i need more Bones and GDK Scales. but its with the other components that i have been getting conflicting reports.


ok here are the 'extra' stuff that i have:


5 NS Armor Shards {Exceptional} H: -20 A: -70 M: -64

4 NS Armor Shards H: -47 A: -32 M: -26

5 NS Armor Layers 9% BAse Effect -7 A


Ok, for the interwoven option I'd be reluctant to even consider using those enhancers due to the limited-uses on the schem. However, for regular RIS my advice would be to collect more - with your aim being 5% base or better layers, any kind of Janta hide (the bigger the base resist the better), and yellow-drop NS shards (ie. above average). This will then allow your smith to use one or more layers, and one enhancer in the segment (note: for normal RIS these won't need to be identical as only one seg is needed for each piece of armour) which will yield some very very nice results. Of course, if you can find 10+ series of any of those (and a 10+ group of geo cubes) then go straight to Interwoven and collect your shiney new suit there


ok what if i got a second schematic to make the rest of the pieces? cuz all those enhancers are above average and i just got some 5% yellow cubes.



now i also have the possible opportunity to get some 28% base effect Acklay Hides, but dont KNow whether those can be used in RIS.


Acklay hide replaces padded armour segments, and so can't be used in RIS I'm afraid...


Didnt think so









Hope this helps some








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CharPrime
Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:32 pm
#4

if you want super low ham ris, get alot more ns layers 8% or higher and use your shards and add either a 4% or higher yellow cube.


use your -47 -32 -26 shards for the chest, and armor pieces. use your exceptional shards for the rest. you will get 0 ham or close to 0 ham arms, boots and gloves. very low ham for the rest.


if you don't want to wait for more ns layers. use 3/14 kinetic layers. 2 3/14 kinetic layers and 1 janta hide will be enough to hit 80% kinetic. at at least70% base to 74% base. (depending on your janta hide). use interwoven to add a ns layer, switch from janta to shards and use a yellow cube. for 80/80 with lower ham.



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TalynMox
Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:52 pm
#5



Dalis wrote:


TalynMox wrote:

Dalis wrote:
Ok, for the interwoven option I'd be reluctant to even consider using those enhancers due to the limited-uses on the schem. However, for regular RIS my advice would be to collect more - with your aim being 5% base or better layers, any kind of Janta hide (the bigger the base resist the better), and yellow-drop NS shards (ie. above average). This will then allow your smith to use one or more layers, and one enhancer in the segment (note: for normal RIS these won't need to be identical as only one seg is needed for each piece of armour) which will yield some very very nice results. Of course, if you can find 10+ series of any of those (and a 10+ group of geo cubes) then go straight to Interwoven and collect your shiney new suit there

ok what if i got a second schematic to make the rest of the pieces? cuz all those enhancers are above average and i just got some 5% yellow





That would work - largely in the form of a replacement. However, I'd still advise getting more of the loot drops to maximise your bang-for-buck on the suit, since the maximum craftable base for a layer is generally 4% anything better than that will boost the results nicely and allow you to have multiple different layers (and the one enhancer in a seperate slot) for each segment seriest gained from the cubes



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Dalis
Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:02 pm
#6

OK WELL i only have enough GDK's for 3 pieces currently, maybe 4 if im lucky. so lets concentrate on these first 3 pieces.




CharPrime wrote:

if you want super low ham ris, get alot more ns layers 8% or higher and use your shards and add either a 4% or higher yellow cube.


i have 9% NS layers, 5% yellow cubes.



use your -47 -32 -26 shards for the chest, and armor pieces?. use your exceptional shards for the rest. you will get 0 ham or close to 0 ham arms, boots and gloves. very low ham for the rest.


ok so use my non exceptional on the chest and R/L Bracer, and R/L Bicep, and my exceptionals on Helm, Pants, Gloves, Boots


if you don't want to wait for more ns layers. use 3/14 kinetic layers. 2 3/14 kinetic layers and 1 janta hide will be enough to hit 80% kinetic. at at least70% base to 74% base. (depending on your janta hide). use interwoven to add a ns layer, switch from janta to shards and use a yellow cube. for 80/80 with lower ham.


ok so for these first 3 pieces this is what i would put into em?(Helm Chest and pants)


Helm: (with interwoven)

1 exceptional NS Shard

1 9% NS Layer

1 5% Yellow Cube


Chest: (with INterwoven)

1 Non-Exceptional NS shard

1 9% NS Layer

1 5% Yellow cube


Pants: (with interwoven)

1 Exceptional NS Shard

1 9% NS Layer

1 5% Yellow Cube


(not including all the required components)


so if i use these components in this combo i can hit what stats? and is there anything that i am missing from these or can i go ahead and make em?




And i Just wanna let everyone who is posting know, u guys are all helpin me out very very much, it has only been my obsession for like 3 weeks to get RIS but my AS friend, Cogg, has been trying for a year. so thx very much for ur help and guidence and excuse my seemingly noober questions but we want this to be as good as we can get it

Message Edited by Dalis on 10-27-2004 10:03 PM



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justapilgrim
Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:23 pm
#7

you need more layers, each peice can take 3



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Dalis
Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:27 pm
#8






justapilgrim wrote:

you need more layers, each peice can take 3







oh really, what if i wanna add like a stun/acids layer so it has no vulns except LS. do those take up the other layers? or count as somehting else?



and i guess im sorta f^cked rioght now since nothing is dropping ANY loot besides creds.... it is confirmed here on lowca that Nyax, Aakuan, NS, Geo caves, DWB, Fort Tusken and a few others are not dropping since JTL was pushed live maybe ill just try and buy some

Message Edited by Dalis on 10-27-2004 10:30 PM



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justapilgrim
Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:30 pm
#9

you could go with a sun and aicd layer, but it would probably make pretty crappy RIS, you usually have to pick one vuln at least, or get something much better than a 9% layer.


if you went for high base on your setup, you prob only get 70% base and 40% or so kinetic



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Co-valent
Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:39 am
#10

Stun is okay, but forget Acid, using up all 3 layers spots (which would leave stun vun, and hard to get a decent kinetic/base), you'll only get about 42% acid.Stun (even though you're unlikely to use the R.I.S. for PvP) would in effect half the damage of a geo or stun baton just by having 1% resist, you'll only really need 1 Stun Layer.


I'd recommend using a NS Shard, a good yellow cube, 2 good NS Layers (9% at least) and 1 Stun Layer.




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Dalis
Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:49 pm
#11


ok, so if i dont put in anymore special protection layers i could get higher base?



no stun would kinda suck if i ever used it in PvP though....




kinda doubt i would, be too afraid of decay hehe

Message Edited by Dalis on 10-28-2004 12:50 AM



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Dalis
Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:22 pm
#12

cool thats what im gonna do



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