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Thread: 2 different smiths able to hit 44 stun on Intrepid(Edited on Oct 14 with how we did it)

Nichrf36
Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:06 am
#1




We were each able to accomplish this independently, and the results are reproducable (no nerf day crafting, etc)



http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=135052



Alright to end the "exploiter" comments-


Got a tell from the other smith- we are no doubt competeters but do share crafting tips here and there since the pple i sell to don't like him and vice versa- (smart business). Anyways he told me he broke the cap on his layers to break the 44 stun two times while grinding out 40 stun layers. I thought he was full of crap- did a search on the boards and found out there were these "amazing assemblies" - do a search every crafting profesision has had em.


I log in and start grinding here and there for a few days and ate the "assembly food." Within a matter of about 100 experiments aparti hit the extra point to experiment past the cap TWICE. Granted I dont have a great rep on Intrepid due to my BH alt (lot of angry jedis)- However NEVER ONCE have I exploited ANYTHING. I PM'd Garvaa to ask whether this is a bug or no- no response.


So if it is a bug or intended I leave you these questions:


1) After researching the boards this has been intact since day one. Read. Do a search.


2) I didnt do ANYTHING different in terms of crafting except eat the assembly food (if it made a difference I dunno).


3) If it is a bug- how can it happen when all things are the same?All things equal, you cannot do the same process over and over and expect different results.




Message Edited by Nichrf36 on 10-14-2004 06:28 PM




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snuff0r
Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:25 am
#2

i think i have seen 44% stun in gorath



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Ail
Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:41 am
#3

Care to explain how you do ?



Just take the theoretical max stats for the resources needed and do the maths....


Metal caps at 1000 OQ 1000 SR


Vertex Gemstones caps at 1000 OQ 1000 SR


Crism Silastic Ore caps at 1000 OQ 350 SR ( could be 330, just never saw higher on any server).


This gives you a max experimentation of 91.7% on Stun which would yield 41 or 42% Stun....



Only way I could see you doing this is either one day schematics for layers or weird experimentation bug that sometimes happens and push you over the limit for experimentation.......





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Nichrf36
Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:12 pm
#4






Ail wrote:

Care to explain how you do ?



Just take the theoretical max stats for the resources needed and do the maths....


Metal caps at 1000 OQ 1000 SR


Vertex Gemstones caps at 1000 OQ 1000 SR


Crism Silastic Ore caps at 1000 OQ 350 SR ( could be 330, just never saw higher on any server).


This gives you a max experimentation of 91.7% on Stun which would yield 41 or 42% Stun....



Only way I could see you doing this is either one day schematics for layers or weird experimentation bug that sometimes happens and push you over the limit for experimentation.......






No bugs, no 1 day patch. No bugs. Like I said it was reproducable. I dont want to divulge yet but im sure people will catch on. All I will say is there is a lot more to the crafting process than what you just described.





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Andymantium
Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:48 pm
#5






Nichrf36 wrote:

No bugs, no 1 day patch. No bugs. Like I said it was reproducable. I dont want to divulge yet but im sure people will catch on. All I will say is there is a lot more to the crafting process than what you just described.





umm...you'll forgive me if I say that sounds fishy


edit: would you mind posting the resource spawns you used for your stun layers?

Message Edited by Andymantium on 10-12-2004 04:50 PM



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Drummerboychris
Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:49 pm
#6






Andymantium wrote:





Nichrf36 wrote:

No bugs, no 1 day patch. No bugs. Like I said it was reproducable. I dont want to divulge yet but im sure people will catch on. All I will say is there is a lot more to the crafting process than what you just described.





umm...you'll forgive me if I say that sounds fishy







lol not to mention even fishier cause he wont share his secret



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hopnasty
Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:01 pm
#7

HAX!




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Ail
Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:44 pm
#8






Nichrf36 wrote:





Ail wrote:

Care to explain how you do ?



Just take the theoretical max stats for the resources needed and do the maths....


Metal caps at 1000 OQ 1000 SR


Vertex Gemstones caps at 1000 OQ 1000 SR


Crism Silastic Ore caps at 1000 OQ 350 SR ( could be 330, just never saw higher on any server).


This gives you a max experimentation of 91.7% on Stun which would yield 41 or 42% Stun....



Only way I could see you doing this is either one day schematics for layers or weird experimentation bug that sometimes happens and push you over the limit for experimentation.......






No bugs, no 1 day patch. No bugs. Like I said it was reproducable. I dont want to divulge yet but im sure people will catch on. All I will say is there is a lot more to the crafting process than what you just described.






I'm just pointing out the maths the way they work in this game.....


Hate to break it but if you found a way for the maths to act differently I doubt it's the way the developers intended for them to work.....





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Shop located SW of Bestine at -1907 -4348

Best sellers
: Soldier's armor ( 62% elec, 54% base, 473/406/492 ham) 147k/set,
Advanced Space marine armor ( 80% energy, 70% elec, 62% base, 539/456/514 ham)252k/set,
Tera Kasi Master armor (composite 80% kinetic 70% electricity, 62% base 513/455/525 ham)252k/set,
Brawler's armor (ubese 75% kinetic 313/363/427 ham) 100k/set

Ox-
Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:59 pm
#9

You will report back here if CSR's confiscate them right? (There were complaints by AS on this forum when CSR's confiscated some of their 41%+ pieces they crafted on nerf day).




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omakr3w
Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:03 pm
#10

that's what i was thinking ox



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Nichrf36
Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:40 pm
#11






Ox- wrote:
You will report back here if CSR's confiscate them right? (There were complaints by AS on this forum when CSR's confiscated some of their 41%+ pieces they crafted on nerf day).





Ok I welcome you to go on my server and report us.


Your math above is correct, but you arent looking at the whole crafting process. Divulge my secret? Of course not, Ima businessman and I dont wanna see every smith on our server making these.


The only thing I will hint at is for FS crafters- these are even more possible.




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Andymantium
Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:55 pm
#12






Nichrf36 wrote:


Ok I welcome you to go on my server and report us.


Your math above is correct, but you arent looking at the whole crafting process. Divulge my secret? Of course not, Ima businessman and I dont wanna see every smith on our server making these.


The only thing I will hint at is for FS crafters- these are even more possible.





Still not sure what you mean exactly, but if you're referring to the experimentation bonus, getting a string of amazings will cap your % sooner for you to add the points elsewhere,it doesn't push you over your cap,as far as I know.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong?







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Ail
Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:58 pm
#13






Nichrf36 wrote:





Ox- wrote:
You will report back here if CSR's confiscate them right? (There were complaints by AS on this forum when CSR's confiscated some of their 41%+ pieces they crafted on nerf day).





Ok I welcome you to go on my server and report us.


Your math above is correct, but you arent looking at the whole crafting process. Divulge my secret? Of course not, Ima businessman and I dont wanna see every smith on our server making these.


The only thing I will hint at is for FS crafters- these are even more possible.





He's refering to the bug where sometime due to a weird amazing assembly you can experiment past the theoretical limit....





Aildiin Rifleman/Doctor,Rastar Master Armorsmith Master Artisan, Aildin TK

Shop located SW of Bestine at -1907 -4348

Best sellers
: Soldier's armor ( 62% elec, 54% base, 473/406/492 ham) 147k/set,
Advanced Space marine armor ( 80% energy, 70% elec, 62% base, 539/456/514 ham)252k/set,
Tera Kasi Master armor (composite 80% kinetic 70% electricity, 62% base 513/455/525 ham)252k/set,
Brawler's armor (ubese 75% kinetic 313/363/427 ham) 100k/set

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