Armorsmith Archive
Thread: How to make really high base comp armor
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Eed
Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:55 am
#1
Right now Im making 80%Kinetic with 58%base armor with kinda high enc, and these are the stats on my components:
Layers: i get 8%kin layers and a 2% base, and put the rest in the ham wich results in a 9.9.9 ham.
Segments: i concentrate on base wich gives me a 24% base and the rest i put in the ham (39.39.39) or something, dont remember the kinetic... i get 80% on the armor anyway.
Armor: Max out the base and put the rest in ham.....
and i wannaAIM for a 67-68% baseso i can slice it really high, and i know... its all about the resources but is there anything i can do different with what i have?
And i know i can use some janta hide. got some 5% hides to try with too... but i still need 5% more base than im getting now.
Another question:
The ackley hides... they cant be used in comp armor can they? and what is the going price on those(just about)?
JangoFett100
Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:40 am
#2
If you want yourbase higher you will need to experiment more in that area and less in others. For example you are making 8/4% segments with 9 HAM. So you must have been experimenting about 4 points in kinetic and the rest in HAM. Your choice is to use some less on are to raise the base up. I know AS's that use 4/4% segmetns and still hit 80% kinetic. I cannot do that, i need my kinetic to be 6% on each segment (not sure why as i use the exact materials others use, but i just cannot seem to get it to work like they can,,,,,and i have spent days trying)
Anyway, by saving 2 points there, and one or two less points in HAM you can get the segmenet to 6/3% with about a 10 HAM. This will raise your base up.
Really good AS's like Andymantium and Cuervo can create armor that is 80% kineitc 70% base and still can manage to lower the HAM. I am not so lucky, as it appears neither are you. So you just need to decide what your customers want.
I generally make mine 80/69% and don't worry about the HAM. I have sold over 500 suits and have had only one complaint about the HAM, to which i offered a full refund, but he never replied back, just badmouthed me all over about it. No...not bitter.....
royalewitcheez
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:28 pm
#3
So you put no points into ham at all on the layers? Wouldn't that end up being like a 1000 ham suit?
Makkir
Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:42 pm
#4
Step 1) Remake your kinetic layers. Get them so you have 2% base, 1-1-1 HAM, and 6% Kinetic (You WILL be able to hit 80% Kinetic still, trust me)
Step 2) Your composite segments. Put points into Base until your segments are at least 25% Base..Throw the rest into Durability.
Step 3) On the final experimentation (the piece of armor itself) Put your exp. pts into Base (If you used 25% segs your base should fall into the 60-61% with good resources). As you raise the base, your kinetic protection will go up as well. Put the remaining 3 or 4 pts into Durability. You will have nicely rounded 80% Kinetic, 61% base, 500ish Ham armor. If you are not a 12 point armorsmith, then your HAMs will be a bit higher.
Cybst0rm
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:03 am
#5
Makkir wrote:
Step 1) Remake your kinetic layers. Get them so you have 2% base, 1-1-1 HAM, and 6% Kinetic (You WILL be able to hit 80% Kinetic still, trust me)
Step 2) Your composite segments. Put points into Base until your segments are at least 25% Base..Throw the rest into Durability.
Step 3) On the final experimentation (the piece of armor itself) Put your exp. pts into Base (If you used 25% segs your base should fall into the 60-61% with good resources). As you raise the base, your kinetic protection will go up as well. Put the remaining 3 or 4 pts into Durability. You will have nicely rounded 80% Kinetic, 61% base, 500ish Ham armor. If you are not a 12 point armorsmith, then your HAMs will be a bit higher.
Wow! I am glad I read this before I do my next run of PvE armor! I was going to start my minetic layer runs today. 
The kinetic layers I was doing were 2% base 10% kinetic at 10/10/10.
Update- Played around with this in the middle of this post. I found I had to triple layer with 2%/6% layers. The double layered fell short of 80% kinetic by 4%. The nice thing was... with the triple layered comp, I hit 61%/80%kin with pretty nice HAM costs (got a marginal success on encumbrance on one of the layers). Although, I think I hit a similiar double layering with even lower HAM costs. Those were the 2%/10% kinetic layers. I plan to play around with this a little more before I go into full production. If I can hit 60/80 with low HAM costs by double layering... that would rock! I wonder if I can do 1 layer at like 2%/8% then another layer that I just experiment on base 3-4%/4% kin. Any thoughts?
giz-zard
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:42 am
#6
comes down to your resorces by the looks of it there not very good
i can hit 80% kinetic with 4% kinetic layers
2% base layers generaly get me 63% base suits
3% base layers get me 67% base comp this is the stuff i been makeing latley i see no point in going higher the cost in weight vrs the extra% resists is just not worth it imo
scrounge around for better resorces and you will be making light as armour with respectable base resists
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