Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Be Carfull what you wish for
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Alanis
Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:28 pm
#1
This is to all the people that Cryed about not wanting the Extra EXP Points for the FS Tree.
You seemed to forget you dont get the 2nd Slot and the extra 10 Lots without unlocking. This is just like a totaly Free Account you dont have to pay for. Now that it looks like they just made it a simple Better Chance of Amazing you can now grind it anyways for the 2nd slot and get Crap for your effort like the rest of us.
AllI say is it better not replace the need for Skill tapes. This would be totaly unfair to the people that spent all the time and Money putting them together.
AtPlay
Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:03 pm
#2
I just dont follow your rant. What does an extra character and 10 lots have to do with Force Experimentation and getting extra points?
Alanis
Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:55 pm
#3
The Rant is pretty simple. As a Fighter you can grind and get the 2nd Slot and at least get some very usful MODs if you dont plan on going jedi.
As a Armorsmith I have to grind to get the extra slot and now , thanks to the grips by some, we get pretty much nothing worth while. Just a big waste of time that has to be done to get the slot. The extra Exp points would have made it worth while.
AtPlay
Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:30 pm
#4
I dont really see it that way. The Experimentation line looks extremely useful to me. As it is now, it takes me a good hour to make 3 good stun schematics. If that time is cut in half, Im happy. Ive also heard great things about the repair line.
So Im at least going to get Experimentation and Repair..we'll see how long my resources last, but I do plan on getting them all.
So Im at least going to get Experimentation and Repair..we'll see how long my resources last, but I do plan on getting them all.
Keuller
Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:50 pm
#6
An hour? I got 3 12pt amazing stun schematics in 10 minutes last time, this it took me 25 tries total...Research center, +25 armor assembly, Good crafting station, bespin port.
Elioi
Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:57 pm
#7
yeah but there is something to be said about being able to whip out a crafting droid and make a perfect schematic without buying the port all the time.
Alanis
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:50 am
#8
Well Im going to do the Grind for the Extra slots no mater what. And the higher Amazing and better repairs are better then nothing but the extra 2 Exp Points would have simply made it worth while.
What Im saying is the people that complained becasue they didnt want to do the FS grind for the 2 exp points to stay on top will now have ot do it anyways for the extra slot. I just dont think alot of them thought about that before they yelled so load the Devs listened.
Remember Devs dont change things when most people are happy with something they only change things when a few people yell real loud.
DirthNader
Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:27 am
#9
An additional slot isn't enough to warrant grinding through the FS trees. Honestly, if you're playnig this game already, I seriously doubt you'd have much trouble shelling out another $15 a month.
The FS crafting changes in their original incarnation (i.e. two extra stackable points) were a decent idea on paper, but there was no way to implement them without devestating the crafting communities.
The FS crafting changes in their original incarnation (i.e. two extra stackable points) were a decent idea on paper, but there was no way to implement them without devestating the crafting communities.
AtPlay
Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:34 am
#10
Keuller wrote:
An hour? I got 3 12pt amazing stun schematics in 10 minutes last time, this it took me 25 tries total...Research center, +25 armor assembly, Good crafting station, bespin port.
And how many times have you been that lucky? Ive gone through 4 full schematics of stun composite in the last month. While it took less time to make the stun schematics on some, on others it was just nothing but bad luck. I was also going for double amazings, so Im not sure if you bother or not (gives me an extra 1%base/1%special). And I can only drink so much Port before Im full and have to wait. And yeah, 23 armor assembly suit, 11pt Port, Research Center, 15.00 crafting kit, 44.1 station...
Keuller
Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:34 pm
#11
AtPlay wrote:
Keuller wrote:
An hour? I got 3 12pt amazing stun schematics in 10 minutes last time, this it took me 25 tries total...Research center, +25 armor assembly, Good crafting station, bespin port.
And how many times have you been that lucky? Ive gone through 4 full schematics of stun composite in the last month. While it took less time to make the stun schematics on some, on others it was just nothing but bad luck. I was also going for double amazings, so Im not sure if you bother or not (gives me an extra 1%base/1%special). And I can only drink so much Port before Im full and have to wait. And yeah, 23 armor assembly suit, 11pt Port, Research Center, 15.00 crafting kit, 44.1 station...
See: 3 12pt amazing stun schematics
I do bother, thanks.
I try for 8pts of amazing in special protection to start off with, no port used. Then I drink port before trying for a 4pt amazing in quality, I'd say I get the second amazing about 35% of the time.
And yes, that was a pretty lucky run. But the person who was complaining about trying for an hour was having a particularly UNlucky run.
AtPlay
Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:54 pm
#12
Keuller wrote:
But the person who was complaining about trying for an hour was having a particularly UNlucky run.
Yeah...that was me. That is an average to get 2 amazings on 3 stun schematics. Sometimes, I get it in a half hour, sometimes longer. But a good half of that time is waiting for my stomach to drain...and it wasnt a complaint in the least. Ive learned to either accept the way the game works or move on. I dont mind if it takes me an hour to do a set of stun schematics if the outcome is as nice as it is (Im up to 40%stun/67%base...capped on resources). My comment was that if I could do it in half the time, then I would be happy.
Sevarhin
Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:38 am
#13
DirthNader wrote:
The FS crafting changes in their original incarnation (i.e. two extra stackable points) were a decent idea on paper, but there was no way to implement them without devestating the crafting communities.
/falls over
We almost agree! I don't agree that there's no way to implement them (although I don't pretend that any such system will bee without impact on new players - that's a given in any such system). But it is clear that the way they had planned (and the free pass system we actually got) was a rotten way to do it, and would have been extremely unfair.
more.spelling.edits
/need coffee
Message Edited by Sevarhin on 09-06-2004 12:40 PM
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