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JeCy
Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:25 am
#1
Heyya,
i finally finished my quest thanks to a very nice person named hannahh.. thanks again : )
I was one of the first masters on radaint and finally got to finish my quest after a year, im soo happy !
I did something stupid, the boots i made for the bothan i put layers in,, soo i dont know what the stats are based on, aka what kin maxes at, and base, and encum,, it would have been easy to figure out what adding the layers would do but i didnt think /doh.
I used a kin layer, and blast, i didnt have the stuff on me to go with acid, and figured blast would give me the effects ofa base statwith layer added, and to help withseeing what the double layer would be for encumberance. i just cuase i didnt want 2 kin layers as i thought that it would reach 80 with just one, and the few points i put in special raised it to 73 kin Soo to me that would mean even with out a kin layer i should beable to hit 80 with adding more points in the special resist.
Stats,
73 kin
36 blast
23 base
59/70/50 ham
Now im guessing that i could reach 80 kin with no kin layer Is this true? Its vuln to acid, stun and light saber, soo maybe an acid layer might be good, but that would add a lot of weight, I was thinking it would be better to krayt scale in theseg and go with lightened layers, aka peko peko. Or go with a krayt for acid, light stun layer, aka 4-4 and then go light as possible on the ham for the layer and a peko peko to lighten the seg further. But as i would be using this armor for hunting only stun might be a waste and i would be better off going with 2 lighten peko peko layers.
Im trying to make an 80 kin with acid and heat protection even if its minor, and zero ham.. to me the perfect hunting armor fora CH/rifleman. that combo rarely ever gets hit but when it does its almost always kin, and the acid and heat would be that rare critter. But to me that would make the perfect unbuffed hunting gear.
This was my theory on build, krayt, dual peko peko, thenmax special on the seg, and if any points where left put in encum. then on main assembly, up special till i hit 80 and if any points left put in encum./durra.
Im just working off theroy now but if someone could help me out with it i would be greatfull.
Anyone wanna point me in the right direction? or contact me via ingame mail I promise to gaurd your secret : )
Je'Cy "i finally finished my quest after a year" Dax
Radiant.
justapilgrim
Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:29 am
#2
this is one confused dude, I will attempt to waade though it
JeCy wrote:
Heyya,
i finally finished my quest thanks to a very nice person named hannahh.. thanks again : )
I was one of the first masters on radaint and finally got to finish my quest after a year, im soo happy !
I did something stupid, the boots i made for the bothan i put layers in,, soo i dont know what the stats are based on, aka what kin maxes at, and base, and encum,, it would have been easy to figure out what adding the layers would do but i didnt think /doh.
I used a kin layer, and blast, i didnt have the stuff on me to go with acid,(do you mean stun layer? blast is included inin the base, RIS is vulnerable to acid and stun)and figured blast would give me the effects ofa base statwith layer added, and to help withseeing what the double layer would be for encumberance. (stun? is it not in base, so theresists of the stun layers will be what the resists are, and will not be added to base) i just cuase i didnt want 2 kin layers as i thought that it would reach 80 with just one, and the few points i put in special raised it to 73 kin Soo to me that would mean even with out a kin layer i should beable to hit 80 with adding more points in the special resist.
Stats,
73 kin
36 blast
23 base
59/70/50 ham
Now im guessing that i could reach 80 kin with no kin layer Is this true? (yes, but you will need high end NS layers 10%+ prob for regular RIS) Its vuln to acid, stun and light saber, soo maybe an acid layer might be good, but that would add a lot of weight, I was thinking it would be better to krayt scale (this will push everything into special and making it unsliceable, I would not recommend it) in theseg and go with lightened layers, aka peko peko (Night Sister layers probably better choice) Or go with a krayt for acid, light stun layer, aka 4-4 and then go light as possible on the ham for the layer and a peko peko to lighten the seg further. But as i would be using this armor for hunting only stun might be a waste and i would be better off going with 2 lighten peko peko layers. (stun definately a waste if you are using for hunting)
Im trying to make an 80 kin with acid and heat protection even if its minor, (heat is in base no matter what) and zero ham.. to me the perfect hunting armor fora CH/rifleman. (why do you need acid resists to hunt?) that combo rarely ever gets hit but when it does its almost always kin, and the acid and heat would be that rare critter. But to me that would make the perfect unbuffed hunting gear.
This was my theory on build, krayt, dual peko peko, thenmax special on the seg, and if any points where left put in encum. then on main assembly, up special till i hit 80 and if any points left put in encum./durra.
Im just working off theroy now but if someone could help me out with it i would be greatfull.
Anyone wanna point me in the right direction? or contact me via ingame mail I promise to gaurd your secret : )
Je'Cy "i finally finished my quest after a year" Dax
Radiant.
wow this is one confused dude, I will try to wade though it, my thoughts are in yellow
for hunting stuff
forget acid and stun if you are doing regualr RIS, and a NS layer is always better than a RIS layer (your peku peku layers, lol) if you are getting good stuff (9% or more for sure)
recommendations for regular RIS (not interwoven) for hunting purposes
2 high end NS layers and a high end janta hide
max base, then special on the segment
max special on final peice till 80%, then add till base maxed, put anything else into HAM
light RIS
2 high end NS layers and a high end shard
max special on seg, then lower HAM
max special on final til 80% then lower HAM
I don't have any high end layers method
use two kinetic segs
max base then add to special on seg
on final max special till 80% kin, then max base, anything else put into HAM
forget stun and acid if for hunting and if you dont have interwoven
hope that helps
JeCy
Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:56 am
#3
Oky, i think i got your jist,,
On most of mine you sorta missed the point though..
I know heat, and blast is in base.. the blast layer i just made cuase it would give me an idea what kinda ham i was looking at.. aka making a heavy layer with out over doing the double kIn layers.i would have made acidor energy but the stuff was4kaway in my factory. soo blast layer just gave me the added base the other modifier in the layerand extra encum soo i knew what i was looking at. Iknew RIS had high kin similar to ubese to begin with soo seeing i had the stuff on me, blast was just a random seg.
The possible stun layer was just a though, you know for that stray stun wielding guy when im out in the bush I hunt a lot on yavin 4 and the geo's dont seam to like me.. and i tend to run into stun wielding crazzy's in the bush,, no i wouldnt take this suit in the cave,., i hate caves ! And those things hurt ! Being layered with a krayt enhancer it would turn the suit into a fully protective suit, for the random time i get attacked and still be light. Maybe ill try night sister/stun/krayt on a helm, but i only have 2 GDK left soo i may just make legs and chest first,, /shrug
As for the krayt pushing acid the others into special, thats fine. i honestly dont care, if i cant get the ham to zero ill just be hoping for a encum slice anyway.
I hunt unbuffed in chiten now,, soo the RIS will be better no mater what. even if i dont go all out on the enhancers. even just going to 70 kin and the rest in encum from what i noticed with my first peice.
As for acid in hunting armor.. yup there are a few critters that do acid, which is why im guessing Chiten, which is or IMO should be themain hunters armor has acid in its base. i know the acid cirtters are onendor and dantooine not sure where else, may even be one on yavin but i cant think of it off the top of my head i hunt klikniks on yavin most of the time anyway,, i love killing them : )
. I dont really hunt on dath soo im not to worried about that stuff there. but like i said im a rifleman/CH soo i dont get hit much at all.as it is,. but the off chance it does happen, to have that bonus -50% even for a 5% for a light stun/krayt mightbe worth it..
/shrug i guess ill go thorugh all my packs and see what kinda night sister shard/layers i have and what janta/krayt stuff.. though janta on this suit would not be to bright..
justapilgrim
Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:42 am
#4
then why not hunt in krayt chitin?
or krayt mabari?
you can get krayt mabari to about 60/10/60 HAM for an entire suit
I wil let someone else take this one, your set up troubles me too much for me to give you the answers you seek (I think it is a waste of RIS)
p.s. Do you have high end NS layers/shards even?
JeCy
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:21 pm
#5
sounds like some one needs to chill... not everything is cookie cutter.. and yea i have made krayt mabari and geo-bone krayt/stun, Iwear it all the time. I use it soo what is consitered a waste to someone, to me is not. I love it soo much im gonna make another Geo'bone Krayt/stun suit. Hoping to hit 65 energy this time with atleast 4% in every other stat for full reisist cept LS.
the point is to make the lightest FULL resist armor there is,, nothing more nothing less. And outta the 150+ NS shards\layers i have yea some are really nice, ive been saving the stuff for a year. Ive been an armorer since launch and i like to try stuff no one else does. Stun ubese helms way back in the holo grinder day to get cubes in that imp dungeon A stun resist helm with under 150 mind was a huge seller. . Lighted chiten hunting chiten with 65 kin, and under 225 ham. heck ive evenmade heat/acid padded that was under 300 ham for the suit. I know what im doing when it comes to crafting, i just wanted some open minded ideas,, Guess ill just do it and see what happens.. Soo what ifi waste a scale.. they are free justgo get more. if you got a problem with that well i dont know what to say.
Je'Cy Dax
JeCy
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:24 pm
#6
ohh btw there is no way you can get krayt mabari to 80 kin.. and its nice to have something that noone else does just cuase its neat.. LIke how about my krayt scout thats 325 max damage with out a power up,, and its not even sliced yet.. Waste of tissue? i think not.
justapilgrim
Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:29 pm
#7
JeCy wrote:
ohh btw there is no way you can get krayt mabari to 80 kin.. and its nice to have something that noone else does just cuase its neat.. LIke how about my krayt scout thats 325 max damage with out a power up,, and its not even sliced yet.. Waste of tissue? i think not.
that is not true, but you would need about a 55% kin kraytscale; the point was that if you wanted a light full resist armor enhanced mabari does quite well
make your armor however you want, you said you wanted opinions and you have mine, no need to jump all over me.
someone else can take this one any time
justapilgrim
Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:34 pm
#8
JeCy wrote:
sounds like some one needs to chill... not everything is cookie cutter.. and yea i have made krayt mabari and geo-bone krayt/stun, Iwear it all the time. I use it soo what is consitered a waste to someone, to me is not. I love it soo much im gonna make another Geo'bone Krayt/stun suit. Hoping to hit 65 energy this time with atleast 4% in every other stat for full reisist cept LS.
the point is to make the lightest FULL resist armor there is,, nothing more nothing less. And outta the 150+ NS shards\layers i have yea some are really nice, ive been saving the stuff for a year. Ive been an armorer since launch and i like to try stuff no one else does. Stun ubese helms way back in the holo grinder day to get cubes in that imp dungeon A stun resist helm with under 150 mind was a huge seller. . Lighted chiten hunting chiten with 65 kin, and under 225 ham. heck ive evenmade heat/acid padded that was under 300 ham for the suit. I know what im doing when it comes to crafting, i just wanted some open minded ideas,, Guess ill just do it and see what happens.. Soo what ifi waste a scale.. they are free justgo get more. if you got a problem with that well i dont know what to say.
Je'Cy Dax
pick light armor
mabari, bone tantal or RIS work
put your krayt seg in, use highest mal resources you have
experiment for HAM on all segs and final combine
for bone and RIS make it interwoven and use high end NS layers and red cubes
you will be at 0/0/0 HAM on most of these armors (you chests, helmets and pants will be 80/0/0 or 0/0/70 etc) and then you have the lightest full resist armor possible
JeCy
Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:09 pm
#9
i wasnt jumping all over you, it just seamed from the tone that you where acting like i didnt know what i was doing,, even the first line that said i was toatlly confused... You where helpfull though and gave me something to think about,,
SOoo this is what i did
i used 2 RIS layers and one night sister shard,, -43 mind for helm and -23 health for chest
Came out 103 mind , 0 0 80/23 for the helm
and chest was 150 health- 30 action- 0 80/25
That was my first go,, hopefully ill kill one and get to try some of the other stuff i was talking about.. we will see
Je'Cy
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