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I've been a MA for a while, but haven't ventured too much outside some of my basic armors. I've seen references to people selling 80/80 kin/elec with 70 base. My question is how to you achieve that? Since I've been collecting resources for over a year, I've got some of the best. My two layered Kinetic composite is 80/71 kin/elec and 58 base. I believe my layers are 12-13% kinetic.

How do I reach the 80/80 with 70? Will just added an electricity layer do the trick? What do my layers need to look like?

Thanks in advance.

p.s. still just a 10pt armorsmith.

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Kelloch wrote:
I've been a MA for a while, but haven't ventured too much outside some of my basic armors. I've seen references to people selling 80/80 kin/elec with 70 base. My question is how to you achieve that? Since I've been collecting resources for over a year, I've got some of the best. My two layered Kinetic composite is 80/71 kin/elec and 58 base. I believe my layers are 12-13% kinetic.

How do I reach the 80/80 with 70? Will just added an electricity layer do the trick? What do my layers need to look like?

Thanks in advance.

p.s. still just a 10pt armorsmith.

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The above statement explains why you are missing your target......

1. Use 3 layers not 2 - no chance of hitting anything near 70% base with 2 layers - do not put anything into special at first because it will probably be just wasted.


2. In the layers max the base (middle row) first then the rest into HAM (top row)


3. In the segments and final experiment the same as layers

I am guessing you will result in armor at leat 67 / 68% base and 80% kinetic. If you want 80% elec also you will need to put a couple of points into special (bottom row) on the segments - this will hit HAM little.

Appreciate your answer. I knew I'd have to use a third layer to get 70% base, but wasn't sure if it was a third kinetic layer or not. I'm surprised you don't put at least one point or two on the bottom row on the kinetic layer. In general, what does the kinetic % on the layer need to be in order to hit 80%? I had been assuming 6-7.

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Kelloch wrote:
Appreciate your answer. I knew I'd have to use a third layer to get 70% base, but wasn't sure if it was a third kinetic layer or not. I'm surprised you don't put at least one point or two on the bottom row on the kinetic layer. In general, what does the kinetic % on the layer need to be in order to hit 80%? I had been assuming 6-7.

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My layers start at 4% kinetic (well 4.66 as we will see) and when I make the segments this on its own gives me 14% kinetic.... This pushes me past the 80% cap.... (base 70% and kin 14% would = 84%)

ahhhhhh...I think the lights have come on. I hadn't messed with my base much on the layers before. I was mostly worried about HAM and Kinetic. This makes sense. I guess I'll have to have different schematics layers for Ubese and Composite, but this information is very helpful.

Thanks for the reply Wai'Kohn. This is good information. I can't wait to see what my resources produce.

Message Edited by mrWattz on 11-17-2004 01:46 PM

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Kelloch wrote:
I've been a MA for a while, but haven't ventured too much outside some of my basic armors. I've seen references to people selling 80/80 kin/elec with 70 base. My question is how to you achieve that? Since I've been collecting resources for over a year, I've got some of the best. My two layered Kinetic composite is 80/71 kin/elec and 58 base. I believe my layers are 12-13% kinetic.

How do I reach the 80/80 with 70? Will just added an electricity layer do the trick? What do my layers need to look like?

Thanks in advance.

p.s. still just a 10pt armorsmith.

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I never experiment into special effectivness.

On layers you max out base and put rest in lowering the HAM cost. ON segments you do the same and on the final armor you do the same. =)

This gives me 80% kinetic, 80% elec and 72% base. With an enhancment like janta hide I get 77% base with that, yummy