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Thread: Are CA+ Armor Experimentation Useful for the AS?

Coltan2003
Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:29 pm
#1

So, does the AS get 2 more experimentation points with a +20 in skillfrom tapesas does the WS?
Aroogala
Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:31 pm
#2

Yep



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KaptenaKrazy
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:41 am
#3

The Assembly CAs are the ones that are the Money Makers. 12 point Armorsmith Expr only helps in condition and with PSGs. You can always top out Protection with 10 points.



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Nixen
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:47 am
#4






KaptenaKrazy wrote:

The Assembly CAs are the ones that are the Money Makers. 12 point Armorsmith Expr only helps in condition and with PSGs. You can always top out Protection with 10 points.



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Not completely. If I got it right, assemblymay giveyou more sockets, while experimentation will give you less failures and more amazings during experimentation. And THAT is worth a lot of money, especially when making health enhanced segments and cores.



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KaptenaKrazy
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:57 am
#5

Well my friend you dont have it right. What makes you have better luck with your experimentations is to do what I did and Get Force Sensitive Crafting Mastery Experimentation +4 That would take care of your experimentations. The Extra 2 points have NO bonus to the experimentation portion of the craft. assembly not only adds to the chance of getting more sockets but it also helps in the initial assembly of the item pre-experimentation. Or if grinding for days and days isnt your cup of tea, then you can craft in a research city and drink bespin port.


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Nixen
Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:12 am
#6

Do you have any evidence (or even circumstancial evidence ) that this is the case? I am pretty sure assembly does not help with results of experimentation. Besides, I don't see how you can compare +4 fs exp crafting with"The Extra 2 points"? The points from tapes would be +20 to +25, not +2..


Besides, "the initial assembly of the item pre-experimentation", has no real meaning unless you're aiming for critical successes - which, as I understand it - are less than one in a thousand even with fs crafting mastery, port, cake, all tapes and research city bonus.





KaptenaKrazy wrote:

Well my friend you dont have it right. What makes you have better luck with your experimentations is to do what I did and Get Force Sensitive Crafting Mastery Experimentation +4 That would take care of your experimentations. The Extra 2 points have NO bonus to the experimentation portion of the craft. assembly not only adds to the chance of getting more sockets but it also helps in the initial assembly of the item pre-experimentation. Or if grinding for days and days isnt your cup of tea, then you can craft in a research city and drink bespin port.


--(( Pink Armor is better than any other armor because its pink! ))--

--(( Crafting with the power of the Force, Just so I can help Bounty Hunters Kill All the Jedi ))--

--(( Kaptena Krazy ))--










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pykescylla
Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:19 pm
#7



KaptenaKrazy wrote:

Well my friend you dont have it right. What makes you have better luck with your experimentations is to do what I did and Get Force Sensitive Crafting Mastery Experimentation +4 That would take care of your experimentations. The Extra 2 points have NO bonus to the experimentation portion of the craft. assembly not only adds to the chance of getting more sockets but it also helps in the initial assembly of the item pre-experimentation. Or if grinding for days and days isnt your cup of tea, then you can craft in a research city and drink bespin port.

--(( Pink Armor is better than any other armor because its pink! ))--
--(( Crafting with the power of the Force, Just so I can help Bounty Hunters Kill All the Jedi ))--
--(( Kaptena Krazy ))--



I, too, have always wondered what benefit assembly offers since you can't critical fail an assembly any more. An amazing assembly doesn't automatically give you four sockets and it doesn't give you higher stats.

With my +25 experimentation suit, I never get less that a great success on experimentation. If I don't use it, I will fail sometimes (even with my ONE measly box of FS experimentation).



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Jenova2au
Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:43 pm
#8






pykescylla wrote:





KaptenaKrazy wrote:

Well my friend you dont have it right. What makes you have better luck with your experimentations is to do what I did and Get Force Sensitive Crafting Mastery Experimentation +4 That would take care of your experimentations. The Extra 2 points have NO bonus to the experimentation portion of the craft. assembly not only adds to the chance of getting more sockets but it also helps in the initial assembly of the item pre-experimentation. Or if grinding for days and days isnt your cup of tea, then you can craft in a research city and drink bespin port.


--(( Pink Armor is better than any other armor because its pink! ))--

--(( Crafting with the power of the Force, Just so I can help Bounty Hunters Kill All the Jedi ))--

--(( Kaptena Krazy ))--






I, too, have always wondered what benefit assembly offers since you can't critical fail an assembly any more. An amazing assembly doesn't automatically give you four sockets and it doesn't give you higher stats.

With my +25 experimentation suit, I never get less that a great success on experimentation. If I don't use it, I will fail sometimes (even with my ONE measly box of FS experimentation).




Um i am not force sensative at all, trying to get glowy but doing theme parks and the warren with a cl 1 crafter is a real trick (just Jabba's and the warren to go and I so don't look forward to trying to takeing on cl 70 odd sith ), i just upgraded my suit from just 12pt experimentation, to exp and assembly +23, it is my belief that I am getting better "initial crafts" before experimenting and i find I am more likely to get 3 or 4 sockets where with my old suit i had a nasty habit of getting 2's, so I have to assume that it is the assembly tapes doing the job. BUT i'd never discredit having a 12pt experimentation potential either, having the points for layers, segs and cores IS a big deal, Imo it is a shame that a similar system to these doesn't occure when making the actual suits as ,yeah, we all have 2 or 3 points left over at the end of the craft, be nice to use these up on something like protects or mitigation.



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