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Thread: Strangenes and other oddities.

Danathal
Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:55 pm
#1


So, I make an Energy-layered (92.6 ENergy, -92.6 Kinetic) recon segment, and it's 1308 Energy (HENCEFORTH REFFERED as Segment 1).


Then, I get a new Fiberplast, and make a 1316 Energy Recon core (HENCEFORTH REFFERED as Segment 2)


I take Seg 1 and put it in Core 1. Result is 92% expirementation in Protections. Core is 7774 Energy, 3552 Kinetic.


I take Seg 2 and put it in a Core, using the same CORE materials. Result is 7797 Energy, 3575 Kinetic.




I take Core 1 (7774 Energy), result is Ubese with 8111 Energy resist.

I take Core 2 (7797 Energy), result is Ubese with 8111 Energy resist.



Higher Cores, Same armor? Why dosen't this make sence?


ANY Ideas at all would help Me a TON.

Message Edited by Danathal on 07-17-2005 12:58 AM




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Aroogala
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:39 pm
#2


Cap maybe?



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itysko
Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:08 am
#3

prolly cause crafting is borked. i still think if you get amazing success's you should come out with a better product. right now, no matter how many amazings you get on the final apperance, it will have the same condition as if you had all greats



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EdOWar
Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:15 am
#4


Crafting the armor appearance adds 400 to the resists. Taking Core 1 (7774), and adding 400 you should get 8174. But you got 8111. This implies you've hit a cap on the resists, so a better core won't improve them.


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Danathal
Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:55 am
#5






EdOWar wrote:


Crafting the armor appearance adds 400 to the resists. Taking Core 1 (7774), and adding 400 you should get 8174. But you got 8111. This implies you've hit a cap on the resists, so a better core won't improve them.


Slim Vargo, Corbantis






I thought the Cap on Energy Layered Recon is 8200?




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Jyde71
Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:15 am
#6


Its the stats of your layers alone that determine how far above you get past the unlayered hardcap of 7k.


lets asume that with segment 1 you hit 6600 cores (no layers), and with segment 2 you hit 6650 (allso no layers). the hardcap will reduce segment 2 to 6600 and then only add the extra energy protection from the layers to the hardcap.


This allso confused me to begin with untill i did the math, since you dont see the 6600 cap, cores still show 6650 but are actually 6600.



Hope it makes sence, my english isnt that good.




Message Edited by Jyde71 on 07-17-2005 10:16 AM



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Danathal
Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:37 am
#7

Ja. Ich verstehe.


Yes, I understand now. Because my Energy layers are 92.6, I can only go to 8111 on the final combine. I need better energy layers to make better armor.




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Keeper32
Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:57 am
#8

I had the same "What the..." experience a little while ago


Basically it's the last great challenge in armorsmithing. We can walk the tightropes to find out where we can max cores and then maximize the condition based on flying half-blind. Wee.

(I apologize for the metaphors. I'm in an odd mood)



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WittyNewt
Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:32 am
#9






Danathal wrote:

Ja. Ich verstehe.


Yes, I understand now. Because my Energy layers are 92.6, I can only go to 8111 on the final combine. I need better energy layers to make better armor.






Exactly, you are adding 12 layers to an advanced core. Thats 12 x 92.6 = 1111 energy layer bonus. I can see you are reaching the unlayered cap with you other resources so your unlayered energy protection is 7000 with those segment and core resources. These are exactly the same segment and core resources you were using in the previous thread (freedomwarriors thread) right?


Add 1111 to 7000 and you get 8111. It does not matter if you had perfect segment and core resources, you will only get 8111 with these energy layers. Hence, changing to a better fiberplast in your segments does not matter as you are already reaching the cap and is frankly a waste.


This is explained in that layer/seg/core maths thread I put together a few pages down.


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