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Thread: Mandolorian Armor

garvin
Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:52 am
#92

I can tell you want how I think the Devs would respond (based off of their past responses to this):


1) We want to keep it very rare and a real "prize"...

2) There are future plans for the Jedi population that will "encourage" them not to be so "public".


It's my opinion that the Devs HAD to make Jedi the way it is...A big selling point of SWG was "play as a Jedi" in many of the minds of those buying it. Remember back before anyone had unlocked a Jedi? Tons of folks were posting flames and rants about the unavailability of being a Jedi and there was much speculation that the Jedi code wasn't even in there. I'm sure SWG saw a lot of people leave who were frustrated that they weren't a Jedi...we'll now we have the opposite and we have more Jedi they most folks are comfortable with.


The problem isn't that there are so many Jedi...the problem is that we SEE there are so many Jedi...So the trick to that is to "encourage" the Jedi population to stay out of the public eye, or suffer what results from being a little to public. I'm speaking of a change that may or may not make it into the CU, but definitely is something the Devs have cooking that will add yet another sense of "Star Wars" to the game. I'd tell you more, but unfortunately my NDA expands past CU related info...


So back to the idea of Mando Armor...while I agree that it's, in my mind, a bit more difficult to obtain then I'd personally like, I feel like it's a double edged sword...Right now, like the Jedi system in the beginning, people are complaining it's to tough to get, but if the Devs make it easier, we'll end up seeing volumes of folks running around in Mando armor and then people will be complaining that it's all over the place and players will be demanding something be done to "fix" the situation like the many complaints about to many Jedi running around. What is the "Happy Medium"?



Garvin Lansdowne
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Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

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garvin
Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:01 am
#93






Novock wrote:

is the madno armor separate then the Bh armor do you turn the BH armor into the mado armor? LOL been playing for a year and have never once gotten involved with the DWB, but am hoping to here real soon.





BH armor is coverted into Mando armor at the DWB...you must have the right ingredients as well as a Master DE and a Master AS to make a full set...plus there is a time limit once in the DWB to make it to the crafting stations and if you fail, you all get booted...


Personally I always thought the devs should have made Mando armor also an ultra rare drop via a static mission (no camping)...I'd make all armor pieces, except the helmet, drop at the same rate as exceptional weapons...I'd make the helmet (obviously the most recognizable piece) drop even more rare then that...


The background story of the Mando's is that they were a race of Commando like Soldiers who were eventually wiped out...but it's possible that their armor could still exist somewhere besides what Jango and Boba (as well as the other suit worn by the person pretending to be Boba in the comics) wore...I believe Boba once said that there were no more suits out there, but he could have been lying or Jango might not have told him where the Armor stash was...My guess is that there are tons more suits out there and Boba would know about it, but keep it secret so that he could replace armor pieces when needed...What if someone stumbled upon Boba's secret Mando armor stash?




Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

Cpl_Fisher
Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:15 am
#94

meh I can't even find BH armor, need to kill more peeps...



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Ryubushi
Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:20 am
#95






Cpl_Fisher wrote:

meh I can't even find BH armor, need to kill more peeps...







Ditto.


I've killed 2 or 3 dozen of the Black Sun idiots, most soon after they introduced BH armor, and I haven't looted a single piece.


I just think I have bad luck with looting for the most part.






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TheHammer317
Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:34 am
#96


theres a time limit in the bunker? the only limit is once in the crafting room but its pretty much so u dont go in and sit around they give a lil more than enough time to get in get the job done and get out



and i have an idea about the whole keep the jedi not so public and im thinkin they bring back Saber TEFs, which would be BADAZZ!

Message Edited by TheHammer317 on 01-24-2005 09:35 AM





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Silberado
Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:03 am
#97



garvin wrote:

I can tell you want how I think the Devs would respond (based off of their past responses to this):


1) We want to keep it very rare and a real "prize"... Agree there needs to be content like this in the game.

2) There are future plans for the Jedi population that will "encourage" them not to be so "public".

One of the problemsI have with the game now is that a large part of the population is not public. Between Jedi Grinding in remote locations and

JTL's in space, You rarely see large groups of people in any particular place. If there plan is to make the Jedi go hide some where that would be bad for the game.





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Novock
Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:42 am
#98






garvin wrote:





Novock wrote:

is the madno armor separate then the Bh armor do you turn the BH armor into the mado armor? LOL been playing for a year and have never once gotten involved with the DWB, but am hoping to here real soon.





BH armor is coverted into Mando armor at the DWB...you must have the right ingredients as well as a Master DE and a Master AS to make a full set...plus there is a time limit once in the DWB to make it to the crafting stations and if you fail, you all get booted...


Personally I always thought the devs should have made Mando armor also an ultra rare drop via a static mission (no camping)...I'd make all armor pieces, except the helmet, drop at the same rate as exceptional weapons...I'd make the helmet (obviously the most recognizable piece) drop even more rare then that...


The background story of the Mando's is that they were a race of Commando like Soldiers who were eventually wiped out...but it's possible that their armor could still exist somewhere besides what Jango and Boba (as well as the other suit worn by the person pretending to be Boba in the comics) wore...I believe Boba once said that there were no more suits out there, but he could have been lying or Jango might not have told him where the Armor stash was...My guess is that there are tons more suits out there and Boba would know about it, but keep it secret so that he could replace armor pieces when needed...What if someone stumbled upon Boba's secret Mando armor stash?







Thanks for the info. I hadn't persued that yet. I'm still trying to get the components for RIS. LOL no woolymander bones i can't out damage the swordsmen campers. 70 GDK killed so far without a single scale. But One day When I get it done Mando is my next goal.



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aeuralis
Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:25 pm
#99

I have a full suit of BH armor but the only guild that is good enough to do the DWB regualarly is imp and they REALLY don't like me. I hope to form a group once i graduate and get a job.



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Chabian
Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:33 pm
#100

all they have to do is take out the Super Battle Droids and really - it wouldn't be so hard to craft.......

Also, weren't SBD's easier to Kill than Droid Dekas in the movies - think SWG has that reversed lmao

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TK-132
Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:30 pm
#101

This is very much the position I am in too except my guild is more RP than Village.



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Steagles
Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:34 pm
#102

yah it sucks





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10110110
Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:28 pm
#103






Novock wrote:





garvin wrote:





Novock wrote:

is the madno armor separate then the Bh armor do you turn the BH armor into the mado armor? LOL been playing for a year and have never once gotten involved with the DWB, but am hoping to here real soon.





BH armor is coverted into Mando armor at the DWB...you must have the right ingredients as well as a Master DE and a Master AS to make a full set...plus there is a time limit once in the DWB to make it to the crafting stations and if you fail, you all get booted...


Personally I always thought the devs should have made Mando armor also an ultra rare drop via a static mission (no camping)...I'd make all armor pieces, except the helmet, drop at the same rate as exceptional weapons...I'd make the helmet (obviously the most recognizable piece) drop even more rare then that...


The background story of the Mando's is that they were a race of Commando like Soldiers who were eventually wiped out...but it's possible that their armor could still exist somewhere besides what Jango and Boba (as well as the other suit worn by the person pretending to be Boba in the comics) wore...I believe Boba once said that there were no more suits out there, but he could have been lying or Jango might not have told him where the Armor stash was...My guess is that there are tons more suits out there and Boba would know about it, but keep it secret so that he could replace armor pieces when needed...What if someone stumbled upon Boba's secret Mando armor stash?






Jodo Kast was the other hunter who wore the armor. Im not sure about the comics as I haven't read them yet, but according to "Tales of the Bounty Hunters" Fett discovered that Kast had a set and that Fett himself was being credited (or blamed) for events that Kast had caused. Once Fett discoved this, he murdered Kast and took his suit from him.


From what I have read, it appears Fett had two sets of the armor and perhaps some extra pieces. The rest was likely to be scattered across the galaxy in the hands of private collecters.



The answer for the armor in SWG (in my mind anyway) is to get rid of the rainbow colors(allowing for crafter to make a matching suit), apply inherent bonuses (similar to adding CA's in regular armor) for wearing the armor to those certified to wear it, and increasing its maximumcondition (instead of 40-50k, make it 80-100k).


Resistances and effectivness would not matter if it was done this way. BH, Commandos, and rangers would be encoured to wear it as it would:


1.provide desirable bonuses to certed wearers


2. be twice as tough as regular armors (80-100k), making it more useable without having replace pieces every other day


3. we would be capable of matching suits so we dont look like circus clowns when wearing it


It would remian rare, but much easier to build a suit and players would WANT to wear it, as opposed to being afraid to take it out.





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Ryubushi
Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:25 pm
#104






10110110 wrote:





Novock wrote:





garvin wrote:





Novock wrote:

is the madno armor separate then the Bh armor do you turn the BH armor into the mado armor? LOL been playing for a year and have never once gotten involved with the DWB, but am hoping to here real soon.





BH armor is coverted into Mando armor at the DWB...you must have the right ingredients as well as a Master DE and a Master AS to make a full set...plus there is a time limit once in the DWB to make it to the crafting stations and if you fail, you all get booted...


Personally I always thought the devs should have made Mando armor also an ultra rare drop via a static mission (no camping)...I'd make all armor pieces, except the helmet, drop at the same rate as exceptional weapons...I'd make the helmet (obviously the most recognizable piece) drop even more rare then that...


The background story of the Mando's is that they were a race of Commando like Soldiers who were eventually wiped out...but it's possible that their armor could still exist somewhere besides what Jango and Boba (as well as the other suit worn by the person pretending to be Boba in the comics) wore...I believe Boba once said that there were no more suits out there, but he could have been lying or Jango might not have told him where the Armor stash was...My guess is that there are tons more suits out there and Boba would know about it, but keep it secret so that he could replace armor pieces when needed...What if someone stumbled upon Boba's secret Mando armor stash?






Jodo Kast was the other hunter who wore the armor. Im not sure about the comics as I haven't read them yet, but according to "Tales of the Bounty Hunters" Fett discovered that Kast had a set and that Fett himself was being credited (or blamed) for events that Kast had caused. Once Fett discoved this, he murdered Kast and took his suit from him.


From what I have read, it appears Fett had two sets of the armor and perhaps some extra pieces. The rest was likely to be scattered across the galaxy in the hands of private collecters.



The answer for the armor in SWG (in my mind anyway) is to get rid of the rainbow colors(allowing for crafter to make a matching suit), apply inherent bonuses (similar to adding CA's in regular armor) for wearing the armor to those certified to wear it, and increasing its maximumcondition (instead of 40-50k, make it 80-100k).


Resistances and effectivness would not matter if it was done this way. BH, Commandos, and rangers would be encoured to wear it as it would:


1.provide desirable bonuses to certed wearers


2. be twice as tough as regular armors (80-100k), making it more useable without having replace pieces every other day


3. we would be capable of matching suits so we dont look like circus clowns when wearing it


It would remian rare, but much easier to build a suit and players would WANT to wear it, as opposed to being afraid to take it out.







In the comic "Twin Engines of Destruction," it was actually a case that Kast was masquerading as Fett in order to get more money (because people are willing to pay obscene prices to hire Fett). Fett didn't like someone pretending to be him, nor did he like being blamed for Kast's way of handling things. Fett disguised himself, and hired Kast for a bounty.


The target was a trap.


He blew Kast up, armor and all.



I'd like a full suit of BH armor and Mandalorian armor not to wear, but to put on display in either my house or my"office." I'd only actually wear either suit at a RP event or something.







***Valcyn - Lt. Colonel Ryubushi [ONE] of the Empire (the Tank Maniac); Career Master Commando, Master Carbineer, and extremely Anti-NGE.
***Eclipse - Ryushidosha, freelancer; Scaley Master Carbineer, ranger, merc for hire, and general sociopath...that despises the NGE.
***StarSider - Ja'ahn Woo [PYRO] of the Alliance - The Galaxy's first Jawa commando/carbineer...who also hates the NGE.

People like me...because I force them to...with violence!

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