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Thread: Mando Armor

Ebris
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:52 pm
#79

What does that link to Open Seasons prove? I already addressed that story. I already own it, and you jumbled up all kinds of facts from it. Secondly, ALL that info you just provided about the Mandalorians comes from where? An official star wars site? I know it doesnt, but go ahead and try to find a link anyway. None of that info is true. There is NO official info on Mandalorians that says their armor is LS resistant. Your simply lying by saying it is. Please, provide us with an official link verifying your story.

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There is NO OFFICIAL SITE on MANDALORIAN Armor nor is there an Official site on all of the blasters or hell same goes for half of the Sith Lords within the SWs universe...does that mean that they don't exist...? No. Im going by what i've read and saw within the comics..
Everitt_Cage
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:54 pm
#80






Ebris wrote:

What does that link to Open Seasons prove? I already addressed that story. I already own it, and you jumbled up all kinds of facts from it. Secondly, ALL that info you just provided about the Mandalorians comes from where? An official star wars site? I know it doesnt, but go ahead and try to find a link anyway. None of that info is true. There is NO official info on Mandalorians that says their armor is LS resistant. Your simply lying by saying it is. Please, provide us with an official link verifying your story.

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There is NO OFFICIAL SITE on MANDALORIAN Armor nor is there an Official site on all of the blasters or hell same goes for half of the Sith Lords within the SWs universe...does that mean that they don't exist...? No. Im going by what i've read and saw within the comics..






I've already challenged you: I told you I own all four Open Seasons comics. Tell me which of the 3 the info about Mando being LS resistant, that you listed above, is in. Go ahead.

Everitt_Cage
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:57 pm
#81






Ebris wrote:



Second off, Human in all aspects except culture and attitude, the Mandalorians are truly a rare breed. Descended from survivors of a transport crash some 10,000 years ago, they have adapted to their spartan environment and become a rigid, militaristic society of clans and stratified castes. General appearance of a Mandalorian is like any other human; perhaps a bit more stocky and weathered-looking. Not much in the way of physical variation exists either. However, it is not the simple appearance of a Mandalore alone that has engrained itself into Galactic records... it is the armor.

Mandalore itself is a temperate, albeit desolate, world located in a rather overlooked and inconspicuous area at the edge of the Inner Rim. Making a living upon its surface took on a battle of survival, and thus, the Mandalorians know no other way of succession. Most importantly, however, is the metal that is only found on this planet to date. It is called Mandametal, and is the only known metallic substance that can resist the focused energy output of a weapon such as a lightsaber. Indeed, it takes an enormous amount of power to punch a hole through it, and the armor that nearly every Mandalorian began wearing is comprised of it. For their own single combat engagements, blasters and other firearms were forbidden; they were useless anyway. It came down to either finding a seam or soft spot in the armor and stabbing, or bludgeoning the opponent to submission or death. In addition, the metal is so dense that it actually can blunt a Force impression through it. No Jedi, Sith, or other Force user can project or receive thoughts through its mass. This was, through hundreds of years of use, unknown to the Mandalorians, but was discovered by the Sith.

During the Clone Wars, the Mandalorians were employed as assassins by the Sith in their action to eradicate the Jedi, since the Mandalorians, inside their personal body armor, were impervious and uncorruptable. Jedi were subdued and placed aboard barges lined with Mandametal, to be towed out into empty space and dispatched - their true fates are not recorded.







What I want to know more than anything, is where did all of this info come from? Which star wars book? Where on starwars.com?

Ebris
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:59 pm
#82

Star Wars: Jango Fett -- Open Seasons #3

Page: 20-24
Ebris
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:04 pm
#83

Also Myles got sliced horizontally, where thevest is seperated by the belt and leggings.
Everitt_Cage
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:06 pm
#84








Ebris wrote:

Star Wars: Jango Fett -- Open Seasons #3

Page: 20-24







Are you referring to the Jedi ambush on Galidraan? Yes, I'm there. What are we shown that even hints that the armor has LS resists? Why dont YOU take a look at when Jango gets there and says for them to open fire. A shot is reflected back and hits a Mandalorian in the CHEST, in the middle of his armor and is killed.


All throughout that book( I mean all 4 when I say book), we see the Mandalorians shooting each other and killing each other. Not in the kneck, but in the chest. And your telling me that if their killed by a blaster bolt that goes through their armor it will stop a LS? But back to my first question, what on those pages shows Mandalorian armor resisting LS? Loot at EACH of the Mandalorian bodies laying on the ground that have been killed. Other than Myles, as you have mentioned How many of them have their head cut off or have been cut in half at the waist? None. So how did they die if Mando armor is resistant to LS? You said something about the Jedi having to hammer the armor earlier. Not only is that NOT shown, but why would a Mandalorian sit there and LET a Jedi do that, if the Jedi had to hammer to get through the armor? And keep in mind, getting your arm or leg cut off, even though we dont see that either, wouldnt kill you, as the LS seals the wound meaning no bleeding.


Please respond to the points I have just made.

Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 02-26-2005 09:13 PM

Everitt_Cage
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:16 pm
#85






Ebris wrote:

Do me a quick favor and look at Fetts armor right quick...notice all of the scratches and indetions upon it...THOSE CAME FROM BLASTERS fired from his bounties....Second the blaster shot you are talking about came from one of the Mandalorians blasters, and im not even going to doubt that they 'tweak' their weaponry to perfection....You gotta take in the strength of their weaponry and technology upon that one.






Heh. You have NO IDEA what caused the scratches and indentions on Fetts armor, you simply doing what you've been doing since you STARTED posting in this thread: just stating your opinions, not facts. If you want to use that excuse that the mandalorians weapons can pierce their armor, fine, but your once again just comming up with your own opinions, not any facts we've heard about their weapons. And you STILL havent responded to the point I made about how EVERY mandalorian dead body we see lying on the ground, with the exception of Myles, is NOT decapitated. So explain their deaths if their armor is LS resistant.

Ebris
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:16 pm
#86

Good god you post way too fast.


Other than Myles, as you have mentioned How many of them have their head cut off or have been cut in half at the waist? None. So how did they die if Mando armor is resistant to LS? You said something about the Jedi having to hammer the armor earlier. Not only is that NOT shown, but why would a Mandalorian sit there and LET a Jedi do that, if the Jedi had to hammer to get through the armor? And keep in mind, getting your arm or leg cut off, even though we dont see that either, wouldnt kill you, as the LS seals the wound meaning no bleeding.

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You seem to forget that the Jedi went into close quarter combat with the Mandalorians...That doesn't provide much room for moving around and flying with a jetpack....and even then...why bother to fly and rain death from above when you know the Jedi are just going to deflect shots back at you...?
Ebris
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:19 pm
#87

Oh and do you know why there were so many jedi's being killed? Because they had to go through the HELL of smacking the crap out of the Mandalorians armor just to penetrate it...which explains it...
Everitt_Cage
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:44 pm
#88








"For their own single combat engagements, blasters and other firearms were forbidden; they were useless anyway."



The above quote was talking about the Mandalorians OWN blasters, correct? But I thought you just said also that the Mandalorians own weapons were strong enough to pierce their armor, and thats why we saw alot of them falling to blaster fire which hit them in their armor, not soft spots? Sounds to me like you just contradicted yourself. Theres pretty much no way you can dance your way out of that one.



I also made the point that you NEVER see ANY Mandalorian armor actualy being struck by a LS and deflecting the blow. Also, all the dead Mandalorians we see, with the exception of ONE, have NOT been decapitated. You TRY to explain that away by saying the Jedi actualy COULD get through the armor w/ his lightsaber if he hammered it. Not ONLY does it NOT make sense that a Mandalorian would be still long enough to LET a Jedi hammer their way through his armor,but earlier you said:



"It is called Mandametal, and is the only known metallic substance that can resist the focused energy output of a weapon such as a lightsaber"



and



"During the Clone Wars, the Mandalorians were employed as assassins by the Sith in their action to eradicate the Jedi, since the Mandalorians, inside their personal body armor, were impervious and uncorruptable."



Once again, another contradiction. Youve finaly gotten to the point that your posting so much info that its beginning to contradict itself. How does that feel?

Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 02-26-2005 09:54 PM

chewie28546
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:50 pm
#89


Most retarded argument I've EVER witnessed. I feel dumber for having read through it.

Message Edited by chewie28546 on 02-26-2005 09:50 PM



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Ebris
Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:10 pm
#90


"For their own single combat engagements, blasters and other firearms were forbidden; they were useless anyway."



The above quote was talking about the Mandalorians OWN blasters, correct? But I thought you just said also that the Mandalorians own weapons were strong enough to pierce their armor, and thats why we saw alot of them falling to blaster fire which hit them in their armor, not soft spots? Sounds to me like you just contradicted yourself. Theres pretty much no way you can dance your way out of that one.

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Who fought constantly with theMandalorians...? The DeathWatch...Who were they? A branch off of the Mandalorians who became corrupted....so of course they wouldn't follow such a thing....also as far as I know Light Sabers can deflect any type of blaster fire....so that rule really doesn't apply right there.



I also made the point that you NEVER see ANY Mandalorian armor actualy being struck by a LS and deflecting the blow. Also, all the dead Mandalorians we see, with the exception of ONE, have NOT been decapitated. You TRY to explain that away by saying the Jedi actualy COULD get through the armor w/ his lightsaber if he hammered it. Not ONLY does it NOT make sense that a Mandalorian would be still long enough to LET a Jedi hammer their way through his armor,but earlier you said:


But you do see all the dents upon the armor...do you not...?



"It is called Mandametal, and is the only known metallic substance that can resist the focused energy output of a weapon such as a lightsaber"



and



"During the Clone Wars, the Mandalorians were employed as assassins by the Sith in their action to eradicate the Jedi, since the Mandalorians, inside their personal body armor, were impervious and uncorruptable."



Word from the wise; nothing is indestructable....as stated they had to FIND A WEAK POINT AND HAMMER AWAY AT IT.


Once again, another contradiction. Youve finaly gotten to the point that your posting so much info that its beginning to contradict itself. How does that feel?


Now...for the sake of continuing my grinding in SWG this is going to be my sentence...this thread has totally veered off course thanks to a retarded arguement.
Actairr
Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:09 pm
#91

Wow, this has turned into a really bad post. I would like to say though, as far as LS resistant armor goes, has anyone read shatterpoint? I think those arm shields should be added to the game, that would be cool. Also Mando armor looks awesome, it is a shame that it is crap in pvp, but that is supposed to change post CU so we will see. Oh and I like the idea of a "Mandalorian" class in the game. Instead of how you said though (getting the armor from missions) you have to get a full suit matching on your own then you equip it and bam you start off at the bottom of the mandalorian skill trees. Oh, and once that happens you cant take the armor off (this way you cant let people wear it and get the skills).
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