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Thread: So....

Sysr3q
Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:47 pm
#53






Sirisandir wrote:
maybe the timer is extended....





Not from what I have read



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MrDecipher
Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:48 pm
#54






hackspaz wrote:





Omnipotent-One wrote:

Sure won't see multiple avoids being stacked in PvP anymore. Sucks for Mdefs, great for everyone else.







You obviously never used AI, did you?

Even if it was chain used, it could last no more than 2.30 minutes before all force is exhausted. OK? And no, 2.30 minutes is not to kill anyone in PVP because, not only are they healing while you are AIing but you are also exhausting the Force required to dish out damage.

The excuse that AI was nerfed to balance PVP is ridiculous.





True. Avoid shuldn't be used in PvP anyhow even at 750 force it was better to aura infusion and heal.Avoid incap change should either have been damage reduction or a warmup timer like CoB.



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Sysr3q
Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:49 pm
#55






MrDecipher wrote:





hackspaz wrote:





Omnipotent-One wrote:

Sure won't see multiple avoids being stacked in PvP anymore. Sucks for Mdefs, great for everyone else.







You obviously never used AI, did you?

Even if it was chain used, it could last no more than 2.30 minutes before all force is exhausted. OK? And no, 2.30 minutes is not to kill anyone in PVP because, not only are they healing while you are AIing but you are also exhausting the Force required to dish out damage.

The excuse that AI was nerfed to balance PVP is ridiculous.





True. Avoid shuldn't be used in PvP anyhow even at 750 force it was better to aura infusion and heal.Avoid incap change should either have been damage reduction or a warmup timer like CoB.





I would have been able to live with a damage reduction while AIed. I dont exactly attack while I'm avoiding anyway, unless it's pve.



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Grendiel
Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:52 pm
#56

I'll be sticking with defender.. was defender pre-cu as well..

Though a useful ability, I've never been big on AI as the master level ability for defender.. reason being that it doesn't really add onto all the other defender abilities.. If you cannot be incapacitated, all the defenses gained from the defender skilltrees don't really matter.. I'd rather have a master level ability that functions in conjunction with the other defenses...

As for making AI a last ditch ability, why not let the cost be similar to last ditch??

Anyway, I envisioned my character to be more of a warrior type than a sorcerer, and MLS/MD falls in line with that..






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Sinara-Snake
Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:57 pm
#57

That's a good point though, since it's a last ditch effort, and you're running out of force, how can we calculate the right amount of time to use it? Since it's takinga so called 2k force power? If it was meant to limit us so that we can overcome that last hit from incapping. The FPC shouldn't be that high. 2k is harsh and is hard to gain back if you're not having any enhancer in your template.



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Grendiel
Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:03 pm
#58


Sysr3q wrote:


Grendiel wrote:
I'll be sticking with defender.. was defender pre-cu as well..

Though a useful ability, I've never been big on AI as the master level ability for defender.. reason being that it doesn't really add onto all the other defender abilities.. If you cannot be incapacitated, all the defenses gained from the defender skilltrees don't really matter.. I'd rather have a master level ability that functions in conjunction with the other defenses...

As for making AI a last ditch ability, why not let the cost be similar to last ditch??

Anyway, I envisioned my character to be more of a warrior type than a sorcerer, and MLS/MD falls in line with that..


How could they do this? It doesn't seem viable to use it when you have close to no health and alot of force, you can just heal, and if your low on force, you cant use it at all?





What I mean is for it take your remaining force to activate it.. Actually it should be a fixed amount (say 500?) plus your remaining force.. otherwise it could be reactivated over and over with little to no force left.. I suppose the duration could use some adjustment as well..






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alpinestreams
Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:17 pm
#59


AI is only one issue here ... the real sting is in heal now using action and mind points ... sap got nerfed too ... will be interesting to see if choke is worth it now armour does not effect it ... I'm seriously suprised at how many non-defenders are lauding the changes ... btw how quickly can a cloaker transfer force to a defender? ... I will be keeping my token for another few months to see what other surprises they have for us ... imagine Ford producing and selling a new sports car with a top speed of 200 mph then calling for a law which bans engines capable of speeds over 100 ... they sold us AI ... it WORKED ... now they take it away ... he scored a touchdown it isn't fair ... why isn't it fair ... well he had the ball and we didn't


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Message Edited by alpinestreams on 06-21-2005 05:21 PM




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Gknee
Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:04 pm
#60

what's new in the world of Musicians. Been VERY quiet in here. Surely there is news from the devs...*holds side trying not to laugh so hard*



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Chessack
Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:47 pm
#61

/target nalargon

/startmusic ballad

/sing It's 9 o'clock on a Saturday...
/sing The forum crowd logs in...
/sing There's an old poster sitting next to me...
/sing Posting flames on the board for musicians...

/sing He says hon, can you play me a melody?
/sing I'm not really sure how it jives...
/sing But it's sad, and it's sweet
/sing And I knew it complete
/sing Before the CU went live!
.....



You're right though. This forum is very quiet. The dancer forum is much more active.
(We argue with each other more than you people do!)

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Gknee
Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:06 pm
#62

not really a dancer...so....yea....I have dancer Avatars...but don't really consider myself a dancer. Maybe....they should combine the forums...or the professions. (heh)



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Minty freshness!!
DoctorNerve
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:51 pm
#63


I've had a few glasses of JD and coke while I wait for Bria to load once again. Just like all buzzed moments, it makes you want to ask the hard questions about life.

Here goes.

Why are Commandos so damn sexy? I mean, like, DAMNNNNNNNN, GINA.

Message Edited by DoctorNerve on 08-24-2005 07:51 PM




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VitoGenovese
Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:08 pm
#64

Our big guns are a phallic symbol reminding everyone why we have those oversized codpieces. I wonder if I can get nipples put on my armor a la Batman 3?



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