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Thread: So Long... and thanks for all the fish

Skadoink
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:42 pm
#27

/salute Okram


Only met you on Test a week or so ago, and since then I've not managed to get on again due to my own issues with SOE (another story)


Anyway - best of luck for the future.


/respect




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whitefmxer
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:42 pm
#28






-VtS-Maddix wrote:
You seemed like a guy that actually cared, but being honest your "they aren't listening so we'll mail spam them with the same message" idea was very childish. I'm sure you had the best intentions, but (assuming this is the first time) its a shame they don't give you a second chance.





As long as your message doesnt contain any profane content. There is nothing in the forum ToU that says you cant voice your opinion to the devs. Thats all he tried to do.
Armafied
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:46 pm
#29




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DevHunter
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:46 pm
#30

yay!they just locked the other post




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TheCapn2000
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:47 pm
#31

/salute



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Jeterb
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:48 pm
#32

/salute;




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MailekEOC
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:50 pm
#33

/salute


I hope the game dies a quick death now...serves you devs right...



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JokitoRoyo
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:50 pm
#34






Okram2k wrote:
Well umm... as you all can see, I'm not blue anymore.




Oa'Kron. I can't say anything other than that this really stinks. You and the folks over here in the AS forum have been nothing if not supportive of us Rangers.


On the eve of our minor victory in the HoC chat, to read that you are being so crappily treated, our win has now turned to ash in my mouth.


/salute





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Thula
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:53 pm
#35

Bye Okram, as I managed to say in the other thread before it got locked, thanks for all the hard work.



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Tepic_Sand
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:53 pm
#36

Looks like you got royally screwed for doing your job dude, voicing the opinions of the community.


I knew all these good things we've been getting recently wouldnt last...



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BioEngine
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:53 pm
#37






AbsolutMinsc wrote:

/salute Okram

You fought the good fight. You tried to stand up for the profession you love and thats all any of could ask for in a correspondant. SOE needs to realize you can't silence people by taking away their title. This will alert even more people to the AS plight. Be resolute in your stance and do what you can. Again, great job.




Already a thread about it in the Ranger forums. I hope SOE will be ready when they are confronted with this grievous error of judgement. Apparently, they do not have an ion of sense when it comes to customer relations. They need therapy.




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RedDestinyCC
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:57 pm
#38

It never ceases to amaze me how poor SOE SWG teams' skills are at leadership, communication, project management, and ethics. I would swear based upon my experience that its a bunch of teenagers running the show.


How poor is it to tell a so-called volunteer that they are removed from service by "removing them from service" and not communicating with them directly. What dismal communication, dismal maturity, dismal ethics. It's not a business, its a circus.


Correspondents should be discontinued anyway, because they're only real purpose is to:



  1. Deflect attention from SOE devs onto human fodder called Correspondents - "Dont talk to us, coordinate through your profession's Correspondent," sayeth the devs, and in real world what they're saying is, "go away, I don't want to hear it."

  2. Provide a false perception that SOE listens to the community, through this hollow representative process, that really only produces vapid quick top issue lists that really add no value to the devs planning work, the ideas are negligibly formed if at all, and only serve for the devs to be able to say, "we've heard your issues," when they haven't, the issues expressed are not demonstrated in the final outcome

Also, the correspondents are handed their titles with little or no support, and the only thing they get from the devs is the occasional bone of information, "to keep them in the loop of feedback," on some scant bit of "can we get your feedback on this?" rarely offered.


This project called SWG is doomed. There is no doubt. The signs of mismanagement and utter lack of business acumen demonstrated by SOE, from community reps and moderators, to the President's very positive responses from customers, to the actual releases of game development (holo grinding, FRS, New SWG, for examples,) is all demonstrative of the downfall of the game through mismanagement.


Instead of rallying the broader base of players for support around game improvements, to build the playerbase through industry trades and word of mouth, they instead fracture and split the playerbase into a strong segment who is anti-New SWG and anti-SOE. They are completely incompetent.


Nice communication to the services of a Correspondent about his removal. It's as nice as any other form of leadership by SOE SWG around here.

Yojimbo115
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:58 pm
#39


/salute


Pittiful...simply pittiful on SOE's part.

Message Edited by Yojimbo115 on 04-14-2005 03:59 PM




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