Armorsmith Archive

You bring up a good point, so let me give you a contra example. A soldier knows how to kill stuff, and with that comes the knowledge of what is good and bad for defense and offense. They know how to use it, but they don't know what makes it work. Unless a soldier takes the time to study the making of armor or weapons in depth (i.e. skill point cost) then they stand no chance of repairing it. Of course this would eventually be suggestive of a repair line with it's own experience be put into crafting professions, or at least more emphasis be placed on putting repair into the current skillset system.

Your second point about a patch up not being as good is true. Obviously the actual numbers could be changed, so that there were levels of repair using different kits which require higher and higher quality resources, with a 95% giving full repair, and so on down to 10% kits possibly with a lower skill usage and generally worse outcome.

I do have to disagree that the armor repair coding would be a nightmare. It's a fairly simple switch. If (object applying) is not (object creator line) then repair uses non-creator non-armorsmith equation. Likewise with an armorsmith repairing armor they didn't create (and thus a decay occuring to the total condition), and someone with no skills or knowledge of armor creation (miuch larger decay).

Just fixing the number of bad repairs would only be solving a symptom of the underlying problem, and it seems to be would be a fairly unrealistic model. Also while armor is the prime example, I was also speaking in a much broader sense of all items in the game which are crafted by all professions. Tailors know how to fix their own clothes, architects their houses, etc... The only profession that wouldn't be affected is the ones that have no problem with persistent items, like chefs and bio-engineers, whose goods are accepted as 1 time usage. Quick fixes have done nothing but degrade the integrity and immersive quality of the game, which I believe we can all agree is evident in this latest patch (mining planet that you can't put mines on)

freedomwarrior

This wont work. Alot of crafters have alts that have their wearable factories down. With this system, you are forcing the crafters to place all the wearables with their main char and/or hand make the armor. I did hand making of armor for several months no thanks to the armorcolor cratebug. No thanks, I have no desire to do this again. So now, the name on the armor is going to be my jedi's name, not my crafter. So how would you solve this dilemma? My jedi doesnt know how to sew a stitch either.

See, the issue on decay is readily resolved with soe returning and examining their numbers on decay. Correcting and making it so that decay will not happen as fast. In addition, adding what I proposed earlier with tailors to make them more viable again. Give them the ability to remove the clothing attachments or armor attachments. This would give them the ability to be more profitable than they already are. This would also solve the issues with the high costs of tapes. In addition, im not saying to make the ability a 100% success, but a ratio. maybe give the tapes conditions, and as they are removed from armor or clothes, they lose condition and not repairable. Once they hit 0 condition, then the tape becomes useless.

I would like to point out that the name on the item creator is actually affected by the schematic put into the factory, and has nothing to do with the factory owner. If your crates are taking on this property then I suggest you contact a CSR about your bugged factory. But you do bring up a point with 2 possible causes.

1)You takei the schematic out of the factory with your alt, and put it back in but the name on it takes on that of the last person to put it in (this is a bug)

2)You take the finished crates out of the factory and unload some of the items with your alt. The creator name changes to that of the person who took the item from the crate (also sometimes with selling items in the crate this will happen with vendor transfers). This is also a bug....

So since these are 2 known issues they would have to be worked out before a solution like mine was implemented. Also there would have to be code that would be more robust for all items, including those that lose creator information upon use (like houses and mines and droids...oh my!) So yes, of course such a drastic change would require a lot of work.....but we do pay a fee to play this game, and it is not beyond the scope of the developers to implement changes along these lines without pissing off the marketers ("content" makers).

I must also disagree with you on decay rates. For some items you are right. Armor shouldn't decay so fast, nor should weapons. The fact that they actually decreased the condition on weapons is insane imo, as the decay rate wasn't great to begin with. I also think that the resources required to make a suit of armor are insane based on how fast the items will maintain usable status. However look at droids and houses and harvesters. These basically will never decay aside from massive user error. Slowing down decay on something that won't decay will have zero effect for the people that made them. In the real world everything will eventually decay from one form to another. Why shouldn't it be the same way here?

I fear that you're only thinking in terms of your own pocketbook and how many credits you spend on your weapons and armor. I'm thinking in terms of making the profession system viable and self-sustaining forever. While less decay would be good for a while, once again you're only solving a symptom of the greater problem. There are a set number of players in this game - if they all have stuff that lasts forever there is no reason for anyone to ever want to make anything, so very few people would.

As far as skill tapes go, I must respectfully disagree. They are a bonus on top of the skills you use. There should be some negative affect to using them, in this case a large cost (credits), but also there is the effect that they will only last for a set amount of time unless some great effort is made to stop them from decaying (ADK - lots more credits). So in essence you must make a choice about these skill enhancements. Are they really worth the cost if you can't use them forever? This is why AA's cost less than CA's, their shelf-life is much shorter. Now if you would come my way a little I would say that AA's should grant a larger bonus due to their shorter life-spans, and armor shouldn't be capped at +25 (for some things). This would create a better balance between the disparity we see in AA's and CA's, create a better market for them as well. But I don't think anything should last forever in this game (unless of course an appropriate amount has been given to make it last forever - ADK). - er...p.s. I just read the last 2 sentences of your post, and if those are the conditions then I would agree with you.

I traded mine for a 12 pt suit. Good deal I thought.

But anyway, I think the key is to allow the tapes to be removed from unusable items. It really is kind of pointless to buy good tapes for millions and millions of credits just to lose them a week later when your armor goes poof. The other alternative, adk'ing everything, is not the answer either, because of the limit of adk's on the server. There will never be enough of them.

It's not even the weapons. I use a 1m credit weapon. I can buy 25 of them for the price of one adk. So what's the point?

Regards.