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Thread: 4-sockets which is it? exp or assembly that increases your chances

Toe-KneeG
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:55 am
#14

Its all about the way yuou hold your mouth when you are experimenting.



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darthbock
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:11 am
#15







pykescylla wrote:





Toe-KneeG wrote:
Its all about the way yuou hold your mouth when you are experimenting.





Gotta be a fellow Southerner saying that.





/snicker



But really, the tailors showed it was customization over a year ago. I don't really feel like finding the thread, but they showed it to be a bell curve whose center moved further toward 4 sockets as the character had more and more customization points. They showed that it was neither assembly nor experimentation by doing a set of tests with a master wearing a +25/+25 suit and then again without the suit and getting the same results either way. I think they made something like 1000 of the same item for each test for statistaical accuracy. They tested at novice tailor and then again at every customization/expt/ass increase. Then, they did the final test with the suit to eliminate 2 of the three variables, leaving only customization. I think they even went back with a different tailor who was 0004 and had him wear the suit and showed he had the same results at 0004 as the first one who did not wear the suit. They also went back and repeated it all for artisan level wearables and showed the same mechanism was in place for socketing of artisan level items.


They did these tests when the first changes to socketing hit and masters who used to get 4 sockets 90%+ of the time suddenly started getting results like we see now. They thought it was bugged, but the dev team stated that the initial state where masters almost always crafted 4-socket items was the bug, and that the 'new' system was the original intent and had been repaired with the patch. This was at the same time that sockets started appearing in armor, so it was more like a year and a half ago, actually.




edit - The moral of the story is that once you area master, there is nothing more you can do to get more sockets/increase your likelihood of having 4. Customization affects the function, but there is no way to increase that past mastering the profession, so it is in effect out of our hands.

Message Edited by darthbock on 09-01-2005 08:12 AM

Message Edited by darthbock on 09-01-2005 08:14 AM



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Thula
Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:43 am
#16

Side note on Customisation points deciding your chances for 4 sockets:


Wouldn't that mean that any Mando armor pieces made by a Droid Engineer would most likely come out with few or no sockets? Now, that is just mean...





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darthbock
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:30 pm
#17






Thula wrote:

Side note on Customisation points deciding your chances for 4 sockets:


Wouldn't that mean that any Mando armor pieces made by a Droid Engineer would most likely come out with few or no sockets? Now, that is just mean...







Who knows what the formula looks for in that case It would be interesting to get info on helms crafted since the CU and see if they avg 2 sockets...



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Zabava
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:58 pm
#18

I'm crafting all my armor by hands for a long time. I can tell you I have no problem withsockets since I got +25 accembly.

Resource quality is important too. IfI use hi-end resources, I get 4 sockets on most of parts.



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BigfootKC
Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:58 am
#19

random!



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JZeus-Sarono
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:41 am
#20






Okram2k wrote:
it's not 100% random. The probability of getting 4 sockets is tied to the quality of resources you use (the better the resources the higher the chance of 4 sockets) I've found this to be true for both tailor and armorsmith items. However haven't done enough tests to solidify my theory, however it does seem the better resources you use the more sockets you will get overall. There is however still chance to get 0 sockets with great resources, and 4 sockets with crap resources, but the numbers haven never been fully tested.





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Your resources plays a big part, assembly the second, I never noticd a differance in sockets with foods though, but when i take my +25 assembly parts of my suit I do get less sockets more often.


I belive mability plays a big factor, mability is a scale for the quality of the resource in the assembly stage, try it, get a mability resource with low low like 2 then another with near 1k and you will see the big differance, the 1k will almost always get 4 the 2 will get 1-3 randoms.


This I have tested for my self, will I conferm this 100%? no, this game is like a box of chocolets... you never know what your gunna get LOL


Message Edited by JZeus-Sarono on 09-04-2005 10:43 AM




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