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Thread: What do you guys think?
Fetei
Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:25 pm
#14
oops i didn't know that 
Message Edited by Fetei on 04-16-2004 02:27 PM
Steven421
Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:52 am
#15
I'd also like to know, as this is the template I'm thinking about doing t
Tellahane
Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:54 am
#16
This seems to be the new FOTM, i'm seeing alot more of it, but i'm not fotm FEAR MY MDEFENDER MLS 4004 HEALER MUAHAHAHA
12AngryMinh
Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:02 pm
#17
PHANTOM97 wrote:
This is the temp I'm going for....
MLS
Healer 4404
Enhancer 4404
I got 20 melee and 20 ranged defense from 4400 enhanced reflexes plus some CAs on clothes.
What weaknesses do you guys see???
There are no glaring weaknesses it this template. If both are master saber and 1 on 1, Jedi vs Jedi comes down to who has a better saber IMO. There are a couple things that help very much besides master saber, like 3004 healer and channel. But jedi withouthealer and channelcan win and lose as well if theyre smart.
Dont bother with force armor if you plan to stay in the fight. You'll be out of force in no time unless you exploit meditate. Even if you exploit, it doesnt help that much and you'll still have your force drained 3 times faster than someone who doesnt use FA.
ibrockbottomed
Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:06 pm
#18
I finally just finished this template and I've only had a couple of days to pvp with it. I'm going to say this, I'm really enjoying it. It gives you great versatility in a lot of aspects. FR 1 and 2. Force Armor, force speed 2, channel, meditate, heal all self2, state heals, and if you know how to macro you can combine wound healing and pool healing for an effective defense vs. fire dots. And the one thing I really like is I'm not severely gimped vs. master enhancer when it comes to force pool. If you know how to manage HAM and use channel you can beat most if not all of the enhancers. I'll keep working my template and report back how I'm doing.
PHANTOM97
Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:47 pm
#19
Sounds good guys. Thanks so far. Please keep adding opinions. I'll also update once I hit this temp. I'm almost there.
jball2k
Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:50 pm
#21
I don't think the x4xx Healer line is necessary
For yound healing all you need is x2xx
Force Armor is pretty crappy also, I own Jedi who use it against me. It just runs them out of force so fast.
glim3mer
Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:51 pm
#22
Its a good choice. For me its the only non-double mastery that I find acceptable. You are self-reliant with this template and Im sure you will be very happy with it. Force armor 2 is good to have and wound healing is a must as I see it.
This is a smart template, for once someone decided on a template that is good on these forums lol (just kidding hehe)
ibrockbottomed
Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:07 am
#23
jball2k wrote:
I don't think the x4xx Healer line is necessary
For yound healing all you need is x2xx
Force Armor is pretty crappy also, I own Jedi who use it against me. It just runs them out of force so fast.
To be honest I somewhat agree with you even though my template is based on some of the skills you mention. Let me explain why I still enjoy my template and what I'm trying to do to make it effective. First off, I agree that the x4xx healer line is a bit of over kill, the problem is I need the force from the 3,4 boxes and not getting them doesn't give me enough skill points to get another box somewhere else. Secondly, force armor does suck to a degree. In large battles it can totally anhiliate you're force pool. That's why it's of the utmost importance that you learn when and how to use this skill to maximum effectiveness. It's my contention that this is not a skill that you turn on and forget about. It's something you have to learn to turn on and off to help reduce the amount of force you're using vs. the amount of damage you take. I'm not a pvp pro, I'm still learning but this was some of my thinking as to why I went with this template.
jball2k
Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:40 pm
#24
ibrockbottomed wrote:
jball2k wrote:
I don't think the x4xx Healer line is necessary
For yound healing all you need is x2xx
Force Armor is pretty crappy also, I own Jedi who use it against me. It just runs them out of force so fast.
To be honest I somewhat agree with you even though my template is based on some of the skills you mention. Let me explain why I still enjoy my template and what I'm trying to do to make it effective. First off, I agree that the x4xx healer line is a bit of over kill, the problem is I need the force from the 3,4 boxes and not getting them doesn't give me enough skill points to get another box somewhere else. Secondly, force armor does suck to a degree. In large battles it can totally anhiliate you're force pool. That's why it's of the utmost importance that you learn when and how to use this skill to maximum effectiveness. It's my contention that this is not a skill that you turn on and forget about. It's something you have to learn to turn on and off to help reduce the amount of force you're using vs. the amount of damage you take. I'm not a pvp pro, I'm still learning but this was some of my thinking as to why I went with this template.
I see what you mean with the Force power, but is there anything else you can get that helps you anymore?
You're going to want all the Force you can get though, in long fights the double mastery Jedi will win. Which is why i'm changing my template to a double mastery
chekson
Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:42 pm
#25
great template idea....although 4404 in healer isnt necasary...i would get 4204 to free up some points.
Gilbert45
Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:19 pm
#26
PHANTOM97 wrote:This is the temp I'm going for....MLSHealer 4404Enhancer 4404I got 20 melee and 20 ranged defense from 4400 enhanced reflexes plus some CAs on clothes.What weaknesses do you guys see???
Very interesting indeed. No template is flawless, but I think this one comes pretty close.