Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Any news on the colour palette fix yet???????
Whoa, glad I read this post before trying to throw the stuff in the factory. I experienced the same bug in the past. It's hard to describe the colours accurately to see if there's any pattern, but what I did see was rather random.
Anyways, anyword on that petition on the forums that was calling forarmor colour kits? That would at least solve some of the problems. We could make the mismatched colour armor, throw a 9-use colour kit in the bag with the suit, and I could get back to playing again rather than make hundreds of suits by hand.
As for the whole college degree thing... I have a Bachelors in Comp. Sci. too, hehehe. Is SoE hiring? I've been doing cocktail serving for WAY too long.
But in all seriousness, I can understand people being upset about this bug being around for a few publishes. I'd rather see them fix the quest bugs and stuff first though. It would kind of bite to see them fix this bug, only to not be able to go do those quests I'd like to do because they're all bugged too.
Later,
Syzzlee, Master AS (Ahazi)
ravingbantha wrote:
They found a problem and though it was it, it did fix the enhancer issue, but it did not fix the color issue like they hoped it would. Now they have to find the other missing parts.
I've got no problem with them taking a while to fix it. Tons of code to possibly go through if its not an easy fix. But the key is what you said above - HOPED. I certainly hope they aren't assuming something is going to be fixed because they fix something else. They obviously have a QA problem or a communication problem because they shouldn't be stating something is fix when its obviously not. I mean, its not like we are doing things in an odd and specific way to cause the problem. Basic unit tests would have shown it wasn't fixed.
So, while I am fine with a fix taking I while, I get upset when they say something is fixed and it doesn't look like it has even been touched.
well TC-Prime looks like its coming back up, so lets keep an eye out for any patch notes
/pray for fixes
ravingbantha wrote:
Seeing as how they have alot of lines of code to go through and find the break or corruption, I'm not supprised it has taken this long. most players seem to think fixing this game is so easy, if it was the you wouldn't need a collage degree to do the job. we're not talking a car you can hook you to a machine and run some diags on, we're talking linse of code you have to sort through to find what is missing. Imagine getting 2 copies of war and peace, but one is missing a few words, don't know were those words are that are missing or how many are missing. Now you might get an idea of what it's like to do 1 section of code.
They found a problem and though it was it, it did fix the enhancer issue, but it did not fix the color issue like they hoped it would. Now they have to find the other missing parts.
LOL I'm a programmer and fix other peoples code all the time my biggest observation when fixing them is
1) If it was done right the first time instead of taking short cuts or leaving out what is can be considered optional. It wouldn't have broken in the first place. Some simple fore thought into what may be required of this code in the future will go a long way to preventing it from having to be fixed.
2) Once I've read through the code and tried to fix it once, I have pretty much a complete idea of how it works and how it tries to do it... So on the Very rare chance that I don't fix it the first time I have a pretty good idea what went wrong and how to get it right...
on the other hand it is usually leaves me fixing everyone elses messes and not getting to write any new code 
I did a run of 50 suits of Black ubese... everything but the pants came out black, and the pants were default.
Corum31 wrote:
ok here goes.
Ubese helmet black come out = default
Ubese Gloves Black = Black
Ubese Boots Black = Default
Ubese Biceps l&r Black = Black
Ubese pants black = Default
Composite chest green = Default
Marauder helmet black = Black
Marauder chest black = black
these are the ones i have so far, not made any other crates.
hope this helps a little.
And yes i do understand there is a lot of code involved in making a game, BUT they have had this problem since publish 18, and it isa Major one for AS, we dont want to spend all our time sitting pressing buttons to craft, we need to play a little as well (got to be fun for us as well as the people who use our armour).
and in a joke whats a Collage degree (painting piccys) College should be. (and thats having a little fun)
ravingbantha wrote:
Seeing as how they have alot of lines of code to go through and find the break or corruption, I'm not supprised it has taken this long. most players seem to think fixing this game is so easy, if it was the you wouldn't need a collage degree to do the job. we're not talking a car you can hook you to a machine and run some diags on, we're talking linse of code you have to sort through to find what is missing. Imagine getting 2 copies of war and peace, but one is missing a few words, don't know were those words are that are missing or how many are missing. Now you might get an idea of what it's like to do 1 section of code.
They found a problem and though it was it, it did fix the enhancer issue, but it did not fix the color issue like they hoped it would. Now they have to find the other missing parts.
Gotta laugh at this
first you do not need a college degree to be a software engineer thank you.
second if I had to big ass pieces of code to compare I would open up VSS or whatever source control I was using pick the current copy of the code and then the copy from before the bug then I would do a "compare" wow.. it would then highlight every line of code that was different then I would scan through said differences until I saw something that looked ovious if I never saw an ovious change I would then fixate only on the parts of the code that could possibly have to do with my problem.
Yes it can be a PITA to bug fix espeically other peoples code but considering that is what I do every stinkin day at work to hear people saying how impossible it is to fix kinda drives me up the wall.. god knows if one of my companies clients told them there was a bug that affected the products usability that they are paying for I would not be going home till it was fixed and have spent many a long weekend doing just that.
I feel no pity for the developers on this game they chose the job its not like someone is forcing them to do it or that they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts they are making damn good money trust me.
Taduc wrote:
ravingbantha wrote:
Seeing as how they have alot of lines of code to go through and find the break or corruption, I'm not supprised it has taken this long. most players seem to think fixing this game is so easy, if it was the you wouldn't need a collage degree to do the job. we're not talking a car you can hook you to a machine and run some diags on, we're talking linse of code you have to sort through to find what is missing. Imagine getting 2 copies of war and peace, but one is missing a few words, don't know were those words are that are missing or how many are missing. Now you might get an idea of what it's like to do 1 section of code.
They found a problem and though it was it, it did fix the enhancer issue, but it did not fix the color issue like they hoped it would. Now they have to find the other missing parts.
Gotta laugh at this
first you do not need a college degree to be a software engineer thank you.
second if I had to big ass pieces of code to compare I would open up VSS or whatever source control I was using pick the current copy of the code and then the copy from before the bug then I would do a "compare" wow.. it would then highlight every line of code that was different then I would scan through said differences until I saw something that looked ovious if I never saw an ovious change I would then fixate only on the parts of the code that could possibly have to do with my problem.
Yes it can be a PITA to bug fix espeically other peoples code but considering that is what I do every stinkin day at work to hear people saying how impossible it is to fix kinda drives me up the wall.. god knows if one of my companies clients told them there was a bug that affected the products usability that they are paying for I would not be going home till it was fixed and have spent many a long weekend doing just that.
I feel no pity for the developers on this game they chose the job its not like someone is forcing them to do it or that they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts they are making damn good money trust me.
As I posted earlier my Job to and I agree completely... We keep versions of the file before modified even dated...
for example login_20050508-003 is the good version of the login file backed up on 2005 5th month 8th day by programmer 3 because he was changing the file. First the last working version is brought back live. If I open the file and the error is not jumping right out at me... I open up working version and COMPARE ....AND it never gets left BROKEN... AND here is the best part... I TEST the fix myself to make sure it is actually fixed, and then when I'm done testing it knowing that I can't possibly find every combination a customer would use that could cause an error I hand it over to one of the girls in the customer support department to try to break... when they don't break itthen it is declared fixed and brought back live. If I did my job the way programmers at SOE do then I would be fired.
and for what they get paid and the benifits SOE gives there Employees I have no pity for them but... there is no need for them to change at all... It will just make it all that easier for me to get a job as an SOE programmer when I finish getting that certificate that says I know how to do everything I know how to do... Yes after being a programmer for about 10 years now I'm finally just starting College for my computer science degree. LMFAO
i think ther reason they cant fix it is cos they dont have a copy/backup of the original code.
Remeber what happened on the cu with chimera galaxy, they forgot to back up, messed up cu implimentation, had to roll back to 2 weeks b4.
but yes the best way is to look at old code/new code and see the differences (then look into what has changed) maybe find the code thats wrong.
why look through the whole game code?
Hehe, I wasn't inteligent enought to check first here if they really fixed it... yeah I know I give the dev team to mutch credits.
Anyway, I crafted 2 different suits of padded in facand thats what I got
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=294427&poll_id=0&warned=y
On the left one I used silver as base and a very light blue
On the right I used orange as base and a dark brown
Looks like he ignors completley the base and not sure if it was luck on the right one that chest/boots/leggings and helmet turned the same bolor but the left one is completley mixed up and I'm sure I have used the same special color.
I'll experiment a bit... 
Message Edited by pykescylla on 08-11-2005 09:15 AM
Message Edited by pykescylla on 08-11-2005 09:15 AM
Hmmmmm stealth fix attempt? Makes you wonder if they don't want to get egg on their faces a 3rd time by announcing it as fixed.... Can anyone do a small test run please?