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Thread: Please help me understand this...

Robcaryh
Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:01 am
#14

The 1.5 X stronger is made with our healing and defense ability, not our offense.. sad but true
Kev0r
Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:05 am
#15

General melee accuracy tapes should be seen as gold dust now; especially for MLS people. I'm sure that the extra accuracy will help against the high defensessome profs have now, especially BH and MDEFs



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Tasomo
Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:42 am
#16

You can't slice a lightsaber because it is a very personal, hand crafted weapon. No one will know that weapon better than the Jedi who crafted it...you know every little thing about it, every wire and even how the crystals gleam. No smuggler would be able to improve it since lightsabers are weapons just as dangerous to the wielder as they are to an enemy; there is no logic in smugglers learning the ins and outs of a lightsaber. "But my Jedi has Master Smuggler too!" Still won't work. Like I said, no one can improve that lightsaber more than the Jedi who crafted it...and the techniques of slicing would have already been thought off and worked into the design and construction.


Jedi are still 1.5 times more powerful than normal characters. Take a double master BH and make him go one on one with a full template knight. See a difference? A Jedi has more tricks up his sleeve than just "hit the big damage button". Powerful doesn't always mean "can kill someone just by looking at them" damage. There's more to it.


What else are you, just MLS? In the case of your example, those Riflemen you were grouped with were most likely not JUST Riflemen, right? Were they dual combat masters? If they were and you're still hanging with them at only MLS, it certainly sounds more powerful than a single profession.


So in your group, you were 5 on the list...what about carbineers, pistoleers, smugglers, teras kasi masters, and pikemen to name a few? You saw the combat diagram though right? Riflemen are this game's dedicated nukers, no one should be doing more damage than them. It was stated from the beginning before the CU ever hit.


How many Riflemen could stand up to 2+ MBH's and win? How about against 5 and still manage to run? Just because your lightsaber can't slice the very fabric of reality doesn't mean you are weak.
WarriorCode
Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:44 pm
#17



I can appreciate your comments Tosomo but your logic is flawed...


1) The DEVS took the Star Wars Lore out of the game the second they made jedi "just another combat profession." Though in spirit you are correct in following the Star Wars lore in stating the lightsaber is known bestby its user and creator, that logic would also product the result that the LIGHTSABER is the most powerfulsingle user weapon in the Star Wars Galaxy. This is not the case inSWG, nor is it the case that a Master of Lightsaber is the most effective combat profession in the Star Wars Universe. Under the Pre-CU Lightsaber system, where nothing had defenses to lightsabers, I would have completely agreed with you. No modification to Lightsabers and certainly no slicing. But in the era of the CU, the era where jedi are "just another combat class" they should be treated as such. Let us slice our sabers, let us gain xp at the same rate, hey I would even be happy with it being 1.5 times more difficult to gain xp but the balance is way out of whack.


2) I am not sure if you are a jedi or not but I am Master Defender, Master Lightsaber, 3/0/0/0 Heal and 0/0/0/2 Enhancer. I am still below the power of a rifleman, BH, Carbineer, Pistoleer, Smuggler, Swordsman, and on par both defenses and attack with a TKM unless auras are used then granted I have the advantage to the tune of 40% damage reduction. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF THESE PROFESSONS TO DO MORE DAMAGE? ANY OTHER PROFESSION CAN STACK BENEFITS...Master Marksman, Master brawler, BH+Carb/Pistols ect... The jedi is maxed out at MLS or MPowers for damage so they are stuck, capped out with a mid-ranged weapon (which you need to loot components for BTW) and a ceiling that makes them at best a mid level combat profession at the MASTER LEVEL. It does not make sense.


3) And finally, to your point Yes they were just Rifleman when it comes to mods. She was actually a rifles/CM combo and doing 1500 points of damage with a T21 which was sliced. No master Marksman, No third ranged profession.The weapon is just plain better. (FYI Using the Free Resource deed I have checked to make certain that I have the best resources for LS across the board) I can understand a T21 being a powerful weapon, but not 2x more powerful then a MLS using a lvl 4 LS attack. My base attack using a saber with 117+117+120+115 Krayt Pearls and the Sunrider Crystal didapproximately 480 pts per hit to her 1200-1500. Sorry I just won't buy it.


Message Edited by WarriorCode on 06-02-2005 07:48 PM



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jeanluque
Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:28 am
#18

very well put tasomo!



I also feel we are getting the short end of the glowstick though hehe





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