Armorsmith Archive

on 09-15-2003 Dorkmaster wrote:

I like to know as well. I having hard time seting up prices and i tend to be undercuting to much really be nice if we all got a market stable price going.

Master armorsmith. iNSANE BUnNY

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on 09-18-2003 Dorkmaster wrote:

Well i don't Set prices like other people because i really could carless for making a lot of cash for it but heres my prices

Chittin 20k

Ubese 28k

padded-40k

Comp -58k

Master armorsmith. iNSANE BUnNY

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Osan

Armorsmith on Gorath

I'm getting a feel for prices still, but I sell my 44% adv comp for 225k a set. I've seen others selling at 300k, so I may raise slightly. I don't mind being cheaper than other people, but I don't want to undercut anyone by more than 10% really.

53% base Advanced Composite no Layers my prices per piece are 65K Bp65K Helm55K Legs 30K all other pieces.

These are the prices I charge or will be charging:

Bone Chest Plate 1200
Bone Legs 1200
Bone Helm, Gloves, Boots, Bracers, Biceps 1000 (each)
Full Set Standard Bone: 9400

Mabari Chest Plate 3000
Mabari Legs 3000
Mabari Helm, Gloves, Boots 2500 (each)
Mabari Belt 1000
Full Set Standard Mabari: 14500

Chitin Chest Plate 5500
Chitin Legs 5500
Chitin Helm, Gloves, Boots, Bracers, Biceps 3750 (each)
Full Set Standard Chitin 37250

Tantel Chest Plate 7000
Tantel Boots 5000
Tantel Helmet 5000
Full Set Standard Ubese 17000

Ubese Jacket 7500
Ubese Pants 7500
Ubese Helm, Gloves, Shirt, Boots, Bracers 5500 (each)
Ubese Bandolier 1000
Full Set Standard Ubese 49000

Padded Chest Plate 10000
Padded Leggings 10000
Padded Helm, Gloves, Boots, Biceps, Bracers 7000 (each)
Padded Belt 1000
Full Set Standard Padded 70000

Composite Chest Plate19000
Composite Legs 19000
Composite Helm, Gloves, Boots, Bracers, Biceps 15000 (each)
Full Set Standard Composite 143000

As a merchant I believe in making a profit but not price gouging. I see sets of Composite on this list for 350K. Thats just retarded. Can anyone justify 350K+ for a set of Composite? The only logical explaination I can come up with is if a person orders a spacific set with matched %'s. Then I can see a time factor that would make the cost of the armor more expensive. Personally I play my crafter as an alt and would refuse any kind of order that was overly time consuming.

Hal'Khaan Darkrunner Smuggler 1-3-1-3, Teras Kasi Artist 2-2-3-2

Unsubarri Ak'Soon Master Merchant, Tailor 0-4-0-4, Armorsmith 2-0-2-4, Architect 0-0-3-2

Wow, I sell a lot lower then most of you guys...

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JonasBlackmore wrote:
How can you afford to sell bone at 1k? It takes 1246 resources to make a suit of it so even at 1 cr/unit it's more than 1k

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Simple, I hardly ever make any. I've not had someone request a suit of bone armor since my engineer days.

And Halkhan, I don't know anything about the general pricing on bria but those are insane

Here's my prices. Sheesh, and I was told when I started making armor, that padded was worth 60-80k lol.

Bone, 1k

Mabari, 5k

Chitin (most pieces have over 35% kinetic) 23k

Tantel: 10k

Ubese: 33k (also around 35% kinetic)

Padded: I guess I'll start selling it for 25k, but I sure as hell aint making it on anything but special orders. Expensive half-cruddy suit.

I agree with keeper However, I sell my bone at 2K and only make it by special request. Made some last night, the guy provided the material, asked how much so said 500 since he provided everything. Tipped me 3K, nice

I price based on # of resources, and markup 3X to coverfails and practices. Now, I'm using a base cost of 5c per resource which is sometimes high and sometimes low but tends to average out.

It makes my prices for padded and down higher than many on my server; and when I hit master I have a difficult decision to make. I can charge more for composite like the majority of the masters, or stay low with composite and hold the line with my lower armors. Supply and demand would seem to indicate that I would eventually be a composite-only armorsmith if I do the latter.

Right now, til I get the resources, all I make is standard composite(no kiirium steel spawning from since before i even started armorsmith sucks the big one).

I sell a full suit of 37% no layers, lowest ham I can get with the highest resists, for 130k.

But, then again, that same armor could bring 200k on other servers, probably. Welcome to Chilastra's fubared economy. =/

ehh

bone - dont make

armorweave - lol actually sold a set tonight for 15k

chitin - sell cruddy 25/20 stuff for 35k a set

tantel - 7.5k

ubese - 30k

padded - 45-50k

composite - not quite yet

I just sell for however much I want... I don't need money, and my guild provides for all my costs, so I sell for what I think is right, and what people are willing to pay. If you can't afford a price, I'll usually lower it 25%. Much nicer giving people armor then gouging them for cash.

Kiradon

I want to point out that there is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE difference in quality of armor between smiths, especially when you compare a master smith's armor to even someone with technique IV.

I also want to point out that there is a HUGE difference in resists between advanced and normal armors.

So using a set price for suits is just not going to work. It has to be based on a combination of resists, encumbrance, demand and a number of other factors. Over the past couple days, I've been going around a number of master armorsmith shops to try to get at least a starting point on how much I should charge. It's been difficult, to say the least. I've seen 30% kinetic chitin and 55% kinetic chitin. I've seen 20%/15%, 36%/27% and 52%/19% ubese. I've seen 30% composite and 43% normal composite. Prices for these armors should be quite different.

Also, just because chitin and ubese are lower tier armors doesn't mean that you shouldn't charge well. When I make chitin or ubese, I'm using the same top quality resources as I do when I make composite. Composite isn't necessarily a better armor than chitin or ubese. Each serves a specific purpose.

There 's an important point which you can conisder when you start out, or you can learn the hard way. I'm going to ignore the difference in quality, including stats and encumberance, and imagine every smith on the server makes exactly the same armour.

1. There is never enough smiths on a server to fulfil demand. People generally dont go out of their way to go to stores because they accept that most places have little if any choice on their vendors.

2. If you undercharge people are going to flock to you. You are going to sell out in a night, once a few people know about it.

3. Once this happens you are very quickly (like instantly) unable to keep up with demand.

4. The people you try to undercut sell a quarter of the stock you do, for the same price. The next day they still have a good range of stock while your vendors are empty. The next few days, while you try to make some more armour, they have a nice steady flow of customers, they still have a range of armour to sell and people are happy to go there because there is a range available.

The people charging more can choose to either play an alt or do some more crafting. Over time they get a reuptation as a quality supplier simply because they always have stuff on their vendors.

Thats a bit simplistic but its true. It gets to me how anyone can accuse folk of overcharging, when there isnt a third enough suppliers around and a lot of folk have cash with nothing to spend it on.

And for info - I learnt the hard way. I started selling cheap and my prices are rising.