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Thread: A Note about the AS community revolt
cicero2k wrote:LOLOL they just Deleted the "DID YOU HAVE ANY POSTED DELETED THREAD" sigh, im sure this will go down soon
*SOB*
GrandMoffMoosemillion wrote:If they decide to moderate this thread I hope they delete the posts that are not relevant and keep the original one.
they'll probably just delete it for teh win.
GrandMoffMoosemillion wrote:
From what I gather, the Corresponandat became so frustrated with the lack of attention that he decided to use the community as a weapon against the devs.
While I understand the frustration, and I applaud the Correspondants passion for wanting to achieve change, I also recognize the tactic as being an abuse of the arraingement between Correspondants and Devs.
Therefore what I recommend is that the community takes this opportunity to get behind the new Correspondant and use your new spotlight to eek out a few pro AS changes in the CU. My advice for the new Correspondant would be to channel the feedback from the community and if you are passionate about championing a cause then you do so within the confines of your agreement with the Devs.
Pursue change. But make sure that the devs are listening. The trick there is that you don't have to be loudest to be be heard.
You have to understand - I'd say about 30% of the AS community is actually reasonable, based on observation.
Another 15% are in the middle, semi-reasonable, but would prefer to have the old system.
The rest are stubborn, obstinate, and don't want to adjust to a new system, because they like the old abuses so much.
As such, ANY new corropsondant will not be supported, and trying to get a consensus on ANYTHING will be impossible in the beginning. The bridge is too burnt for consensus-building. The new corropsondant needs to be able to steer the ship first, identify issues, work with the devs, and get results.
It is only until this community sees those results that it will start to snap out of it, and begin to be more helpful.
Yeah, it is sort of the tail wagging the dog, but make no mistake - that is precisely what is needed right now thanks to the mess okram put us in, communication-wise.
I told him the PM thing would be a disaster and an abuse of power...
Rapunzels wrote:
I disagree Zion, Oa'kron was good and I still support him!
LOL *looks at post count* I have a feeling a banned AS is back
ZionHalcyon wrote:
GrandMoffMoosemillion wrote:
From what I gather, the Corresponandat became so frustrated with the lack of attention that he decided to use the community as a weapon against the devs.
While I understand the frustration, and I applaud the Correspondants passion for wanting to achieve change, I also recognize the tactic as being an abuse of the arraingement between Correspondants and Devs.
Therefore what I recommend is that the community takes this opportunity to get behind the new Correspondant and use your new spotlight to eek out a few pro AS changes in the CU. My advice for the new Correspondant would be to channel the feedback from the community and if you are passionate about championing a cause then you do so within the confines of your agreement with the Devs.
Pursue change. But make sure that the devs are listening. The trick there is that you don't have to be loudest to be be heard.
You have to understand - I'd say about 30% of the AS community is actually reasonable, based on observation.
Another 15% are in the middle, semi-reasonable, but would prefer to have the old system.
The rest are stubborn, obstinate, and don't want to adjust to a new system, because they like the old abuses so much.
As such, ANY new corropsondant will not be supported, and trying to get a consensus on ANYTHING will be impossible in the beginning. The bridge is too burnt for consensus-building. The new corropsondant needs to be able to steer the ship first, identify issues, work with the devs, and get results.
It is only until this community sees those results that it will start to snap out of it, and begin to be more helpful.
Yeah, it is sort of the tail wagging the dog, but make no mistake - that is precisely what is needed right now thanks to the mess okram put us in, communication-wise.
I told him the PM thing would be a disaster and an abuse of power...
And this better than you attituded is why yowu woule be such a plss poor pick for corr. (sorry i sorta like the bluntness cause like the bare said blunt is beautiful) but i fyou cant get your community behind you, and you will not like this, wht in the world would you be doing aside fomr exactly waht all those other spoof threads are sugesting??
The vast majority of us are reasonbable and will take any complicated system they give us that alows us to keep the variations in armor between smiths and techneques that we all seem to love. That is simply what makes this prof better than any of the others is that with the same resourecs and exp points 2 smiths can make totaly differant armor.
Helll i dont even care if they change all the resources i can get more i know how to run a harvie but let me have fun crafting othwise im moving on to something i can. I have a RL job and dont want to do another one at night
ZionHalcyon wrote:The rest are stubborn, obstinate, and don't want to adjust to a new system, because they like the old abuses so much.
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You sir, are an idiot. Of course we don't like the new system because it dumbs down crafting to a level my 3 year old cousin could FULLY comprehend. That's NOT why I picked up AS! I picked up AS because it was both challenging and allowed me to be creative. As for abuses of the old system, what the hell are you talking about? What abuses? It is NOT any abuse to be able to make triple 80% comp. It's not our fault the Dev's didn't figure out we could figure out how to do that eventually.
Meplorium wrote:
WoW, I never knew Blix had an alt.
Message Edited by Camrux on 04-14-2005 08:52 PM
Shiorisoujaboy wrote:
I'm passionate about flaming.
Rapunzels wrote:
I disagree Zion, Oa'kron was good and I still support him!
Believe me, I think Okram was a great corrospondant too - however, he REALLY dropped the ball in the end.