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Thread: rangers = recon

MonKaiku
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:08 pm
#14






hightyebeets wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:





hightyebeets wrote:






Bonestrand wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:

rangers are going into stealth mode, and will be getting the recon cert instead of battle.


with them getting recon armor and being stealthy now, good time to introduce the marauder recon set? with the face mask, and cloth look to it, this would be perfect for the "new and improved" rangers


any thoughts?






I think they will be making the maruader armor a "stolen schematic" from marauders


just a thought but would be very very cool










they will put it on the new planet so we have to buy the expansion with our crafter toons no doubt.








do you guys serious not have money? you won't have to buy the expansion, just buy the schematics






i don't mind buying the upgrade for my crafting toon as well, if we are gonna get something out of it, i was just stating that they would work it that way.



also it would be unlikely for them to make it tradable as they want ppl to buy the expansion for all their chars and they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they made it tradable.







they would have to be tradeable, or else no one that looted them/earned them could have the armor made.


the number of people that would buy the expansion to go get schematics to take to crafters far outweighs the number of crafters that would buy it for crafting exclusive quests.


I really don't think there is a conspiracy theory. There isn't anything from kash that is untradeable. There is a WS only quest to make a crappy knife and that is about it. THe other schematics (trando hunting rifle) are tradeable




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pykescylla
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:38 pm
#15

Just a couple of random thoughts about the ranger revamp. Looks good overall. Certainly has the potential to be buggy as all heck.

* Master ranged (rifles, pistols, carbines)/master BH/master scout looks like it could be a profitable and fun template for PvEers. On the other hand, it looks like it's the only template that will get you to level 80 with master scout.

* I thought this was an interesting statement: "Rangers now use Reconnaissance armor instead of Battle armor to reflect their needs to be mobile and stealthy."

What exactly about recon makes the wearer mobile and stealthy?

* Ranger are pickpockets now? I always thought they looked suspicious.



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MonKaiku
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:09 am
#16






hightyebeets wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:





hightyebeets wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:





hightyebeets wrote:






Bonestrand wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:

rangers are going into stealth mode, and will be getting the recon cert instead of battle.


with them getting recon armor and being stealthy now, good time to introduce the marauder recon set? with the face mask, and cloth look to it, this would be perfect for the "new and improved" rangers


any thoughts?






I think they will be making the maruader armor a "stolen schematic" from marauders


just a thought but would be very very cool










they will put it on the new planet so we have to buy the expansion with our crafter toons no doubt.








do you guys serious not have money? you won't have to buy the expansion, just buy the schematics






i don't mind buying the upgrade for my crafting toon as well, if we are gonna get something out of it, i was just stating that they would work it that way.



also it would be unlikely for them to make it tradable as they want ppl to buy the expansion for all their chars and they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they made it tradable.







they would have to be tradeable, or else no one that looted them/earned them could have the armor made.


the number of people that would buy the expansion to go get schematics to take to crafters far outweighs the number of crafters that would buy it for crafting exclusive quests.


I really don't think there is a conspiracy theory. There isn't anything from kash that is untradeable. There is a WS only quest to make a crappy knife and that is about it. THe other schematics (trando hunting rifle) are tradeable







it doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory, its simple marketing, if i were them i'd make the schematics available only to armoursmiths by using a quest like the ris one. This maximises their profit as ppl will need to buy the expansion for their crafters.



this would be the sensible thing to do for them, and i'm not complaining i'm just stating that that is the way i would do it if i were them.








that is why you are not in marketing, too many people would be mad about "exclusive content" and not get it, including myself



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Thula
Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:57 am
#17

I wouldn't mind at all if they introduced an AS specific quest with the new expansion for Marauder armor or whatever. To me that is called "content" Preferably the quest should be difficult too, we need something between RIS/BH and Mando in difficulty.


The changes to Rangers are formidable, I can still hear the Smugglers screaming (some of the stealth parts have been much wanted by them too). They are now Rogues/Thiefs which sounds interesting. Fortunately I already have a Ranger to play around with, I am a bit miffed that I can't use my killer RIS anymore though


One interesting thing to note is that crafting of the Hologram projector is described to be a real crafting process. Hopefully something akin PSGs. If those could be sold it would open an interesting new market for crafters.


And finally, I am not worried about the availability of hide at all. The changes to the harvesting brought forward by the CU has made it painfully easy to harvest hide, and Rangers are really not needed for anything anymore. Except tracking, which they apparently want to remove, go figure.



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RPMayhem
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:56 pm
#18



EnalaMasterDE wrote:


finelinebob wrote:

Brutus_Krylop wrote:
It doesn't look like they'll be primarily fighting creatures anymore, if you check out the In-Development thread discussing the upcoming changes.





I know this ain't the proper forum for it, but I think everyone should take a look at that page. While the suggested profession is rather interesting, it sounds more like a thief from a FRP than anything else.

These changes have huge implications for armorsmiths, since we use so many creature resources. With Scout and Ranger both getting removed from creature harvesting roles, who is going to handle our needs? Are we supposed to go out as CL1's and kill our own critters? It's bad enough that crafters have next to no defense against creatures while out surveying and harvesting -- this is just intolerable.

Looks to me as if SOE is taking another BIG step towards nerfing crafting professions even more....


this is what scares me

prices will shoot up even more now





You didn't read it, did you? (the ranger revamp thread)
finelinebob corrected himself a couple posts down from this post...all ranger harvesting is being moved to scout. If anything, resources will get cheaper, not more expensive.



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hightyebeets
Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:33 am
#19






MonKaiku wrote:





hightyebeets wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:





hightyebeets wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:





hightyebeets wrote:






Bonestrand wrote:





MonKaiku wrote:

rangers are going into stealth mode, and will be getting the recon cert instead of battle.


with them getting recon armor and being stealthy now, good time to introduce the marauder recon set? with the face mask, and cloth look to it, this would be perfect for the "new and improved" rangers


any thoughts?






I think they will be making the maruader armor a "stolen schematic" from marauders


just a thought but would be very very cool










they will put it on the new planet so we have to buy the expansion with our crafter toons no doubt.








do you guys serious not have money? you won't have to buy the expansion, just buy the schematics






i don't mind buying the upgrade for my crafting toon as well, if we are gonna get something out of it, i was just stating that they would work it that way.



also it would be unlikely for them to make it tradable as they want ppl to buy the expansion for all their chars and they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they made it tradable.







they would have to be tradeable, or else no one that looted them/earned them could have the armor made.


the number of people that would buy the expansion to go get schematics to take to crafters far outweighs the number of crafters that would buy it for crafting exclusive quests.


I really don't think there is a conspiracy theory. There isn't anything from kash that is untradeable. There is a WS only quest to make a crappy knife and that is about it. THe other schematics (trando hunting rifle) are tradeable







it doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory, its simple marketing, if i were them i'd make the schematics available only to armoursmiths by using a quest like the ris one. This maximises their profit as ppl will need to buy the expansion for their crafters.



this would be the sensible thing to do for them, and i'm not complaining i'm just stating that that is the way i would do it if i were them.








that is why you are not in marketing, too many people would be mad about "exclusive content" and not get it, including myself






that doesn't make any sense, if u were gonna get it tradable then why would u get it anyway, i wouldn't, i'd just get the expansion with my main character, loot the schems with him and then trade them to my crafter, saving me an extra $30 or whatever it costs.



my point is that if we have to buy it for our crafters to go there and get it, lets face it, we probably will, and if u don't then what have they lost anyway? nothing cos u were just gonna get it off trades anyway and not actually buy the expansion.






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