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Message Edited by Cianhydle on 04-08-2005 08:36 AM

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Cianhydle wrote:

I am not Hysterical?I am a conspiracy theorist.

It WILL NOT be OQ/UT.

It WILL be OQ/SR/UT.

If it had been OQ/SR/UT (plus more resources overall, more organics, and more subcomponents)from the start then there would have been the same outcry from the community as we see now.

By first baiting the community with OQ/UT, then switching over to OQ/SR/UT (plus), it produces a happy community that actually thanks the developers for listening to them (resulting in a lesser nerf than initially expected.)

Think of it like asking for a raise. You ask more than what your boss will give. Your boss will never give as much as you ask. Only in reverse. Make sense?

Ultimately, no person with a college degree can think changing the resource requirements for a profession would be "better overall", there is another reason. The developers aren't stupid; it was only a matter of time before they figured out how to control the community through creative methods and learned how to equip the nerf bat properly.

Renea,

Master Conspiracy Theorist of Tempest,

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I am 99% sure you are correct. Not because I'm a conspiracy theorist, but because they have done this a dozen times before. It is the same thing I am mentioning in my armor cost thread. They want to raise the resource usage, and the only way to do that, and make us happy is to make it absurd at the beginning, and then bring it to the point they want.

You hear that Blix, we're on to you. (but we still like you)

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Cianhydle wrote:

I am not Hysterical; I am a conspiracy theorist.

It WILL NOT be OQ/UT.

It WILL be OQ/SR/UT (or something similar, plus.)

If it had been OQ/SR/UT (plus more resources overall, more organics, and more subcomponents)from the start then there would have been the same outcry from the community as we see now.

By first baiting the community with OQ/UT, then switching over to OQ/SR/UT (plus), it produces a happy community that actually thanks the developers for listening to them (resulting in a lesser nerf than initially expected.)

Think of it like asking for a raise. You ask more than what your boss will give. Your boss will never give as much as you ask. Only in reverse. Make sense?

Renea,

Master Conspiracy Theorist of Tempest,

PS: The Woolamander landed in Theed. I have the speeder.

Message Edited by Cianhydle on 04-08-2005 08:36 AM

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So very true, I saw it the same way. Personally, if we can't exp on condition, than all we should depend on is OQ+SR.

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Cianhydle wrote:

I am not Hysterical; I am a conspiracy theorist.

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Message Edited by Cianhydle on 04-08-2005 08:36 AM

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Haha, you know, that makes a lot of sense.It would not surprise me if you were correct

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Keeper32 wrote:

Why should a new AS be able to making competing products with somone who's been an AS for months upon months, or years even?

You start from scratch and work your way up, you don't sabotage (Not directed at youof course. You're not a dev )the best in your fieldso your product looks better.

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WolfGuy wrote:
Well, I know that if SR is dropped from the armour resources I am prolly done making armour. I enjoyed it, but if they dumb it down and change the resources, I am out.

I worked hard to get the resources and learn the craft, and I can make armour as good as any smith on the server. I am not replacing 20 mil of the servers best resources because someone changed their mind about what stats should be important for armour.

Pretty much, if armour crafting goes live in its current state (coupled with the nerf doc is taking) I am more than likely gonna cancel my AS/Doc alt because there will be no point in keeping it.

I understand changes needed to be made but some of this seems 100% un-needed and unwanted.

Why change from layers and segments to cores? Why not just change the stats on the layers and segs to the new system?
Why not just add new segments for the new armour types and make some adjustments to the old ones? You could even mix-and-mash resources required from current armours into the new armours so smithes wouldn't need to expand their resource inventory too much.

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Cause that would be the easy way. From a software developer's point of view, doing what you sudjest isn't that hard. I'm suspecting close to half mill of code. mabe less but still alot. IF THESE CODERS ARE WORTH THEIR DEGREES (ya am vengefull on that, I'm an unemployeed programmer, employed chef), they could shift through all the code and classes ( this game is off of c++ (oviously), suspecting borland builder, ) and adjust stuff. send out patch. voila.

Some how they are trying to make things better and make us happy so we can keep sending them money. How is still a question we're all asking on this forum. The only armor I felt challanged with personaly when I got to master was Comp armor. everything else was simple. the thing that bothered me about the class is the specific typed resources in order to make something worth selling. If they can keep specific parts to extreem elite armor , say ris and Maurder, have the faction stuff be faction gained (HINT; AS gain faction points for selling faction armor or armor to factioned players)

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justapilgrim wrote:

I started to read this till my eyes started bleeding after seeing the big red font

no matter what they do, I will prosper in the new system

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Well I guess I have stronger eyes than you because mine didn't start bleeding until the yellow font.

expect in the next TC patch notes to find OQ + UT in armor has been changed to OQ + SR

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Valkyrie36 wrote:

Great work Okram2k...

I'm sorry the new day has brought yet a whole new pile of steamy poodoo to your desk though

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yes great work, we can see about them listening, thank you for your voice Okram