Armorsmith Archive

Some people prefer Encumberance slices instead of effectiveness since they wear their armor unbuffed.

Kinetic layers are also the easiest layer as far as resources go. Pretty much every server has had numerous great spawns of metal, and even if you missed the few great spawns of polymer and/or amorphous gemstone, the small amount used means you can get away with using the numerous spawns of those resources that are just shy of being great and still turn out a very workable kinetic layer.

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Garnax wrote:

What's the reasoning behind having 80% Kinetic Resistance as a special effectiveness on comp? Wouldn't it make more sense to use Energy Layers and have the Kinetic left in the base so it can be sliced up to 90%? What am I missing?

I'd recommend Stun Layers with a high base if it wasn't impossible because of the gated SR on Crism Silcastic Ore.

I mean, why would someone not want to keep things on the base so that they can be sliced higher?

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There are 2 reasons why people want 80%kinetic in the special. The first reason has been stated, some just prefer to get enc slices. If you know that most of the mobs in this game are just going to hit you with one damage type, get that one as high as you can and worry about encumbrances. I can make 80Kin 64base sets that are 200HAM less than my 72base stuff. 200HAM is significant even for those who are buffed.

The second reason is that not everyone wishes to purchase 6 sets of composite to get one fully sliced eff set. It just isnt cost effective to pay millions of credits to get 10% more resistance in one area.

In order to push the base high enough to be sliceable up to 90% on unenhanced comp, you have to invest in experimenting the base at the expense of HAM. With an encumberance slice to get the 90% you end up with a heavy set of armor. I make a heavy 12% Stun 90% base unenhanced comp helm that costs around 300 mind.

If you hunt critters that use kinetic attack such as Nightsisters you can get nearly the same protection from 80% kinetic 58% base at 30% off HAM costs. It is also much more cost effective to manufacture. Every suit has the desired resistances, instead of one out of ten. Some are just lighter than others.

Santino of Bloodfin

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AtPlay wrote:
I can make 80Kin 64base sets that are 200HAM less than my 72base stuff.

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a bit off topic, but 72% base?

is that normal on Chilastra?

Yep, as mentioned there is a number of people who like to use encumberance sliced sets for PvE combat... And since most creatures out there deal Kinetic Damage, getting that 80% kinetic special works the best... I just recently whipped up a set of 80% Kin/63% base that I got sliced down to 400/349/396 for the whole set... This allows me to max all of my mind stats (well almost) at 1000/999/999 and still wear the full set unbuffed... It's a nice little perk

However, if your main concern is PvP then I think you are a fool to be using 80% Kinetic Comp... Sure a number of people do... however I think they are all fools so there

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Nerun1 wrote:

a bit off topic, but 72% base?

is that normal on Chilastra?

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I'd be willing to bet that, at the least, the layers were made during the first day of Publish 7. One of Ahazi's 'smiths had a limited run of 74% base comp that was made on that day.

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You should never use single layers in armour

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N00bster wrote:

While we'r talking about Layers:

What IS it the PvPers whant? Besides the Shock Helmets that is.

I'v been thinking of making composite with Energy, Blast & Heat layers (one of each) but since I'v never played PvP

I'm not sure what the customers whant.

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Stun layered composite with high base for at least helmet, chest, pants and boots. The other parts aren't as important but might as well be stun layered too.