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Thread: BHs look here max possible protection values for BH armor

WittyNewt
Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:54 am
#1



Ok,


Have read many threads on this forum over last few days asking for what is possible with assault armor (BH armor) with regard to energy resists. Below are the caps for what I see as the common builds. Remember these are the max possible with perfect layer resources. Actual crafted pieces will be dependent on resources armorsmith has.


Advance Assault final combine caps


unlayered 7000K 5000E 6000B

all energy layered5800K 6200E 6000B

all primus layered 7600K 5600E 5400B

primus+energy 2+2 6700K 5900E 5700B

all kinetic 8200K 3800E 6000B


For % protection conversion apply the following guidelines:



1000 = 10.5%

2000 = 20.0%

3000 = 28.5%

4000 = 36.0%

5000 = 42.5%

6000 = 48.0%

7000 = 52.5%

8000 = 56.0%

9000 = 58.5%

10000 = 60%


Max possible crafted condition number looksto be 50K.


This armor can be coloured, see earlier thread for a BH armor colour palette


Kreen

Message Edited by WittyNewt on 08-05-2005 04:34 PM

Message Edited by WittyNewt on 08-08-2005 08:26 AM



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Keeper32
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:06 am
#2

Condition seems to be the same as standard armor. EG. around 50k max



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WittyNewt
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:07 am
#3

Yuck, ok thanks. I was hoping it would have a 1.5 or 2x multiplier like faction and RIS.


Kreen





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Capt_Obvious
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:09 am
#4






WittyNewt wrote:

Yuck, ok thanks. I was hoping it would have a 1.5 or 2x multiplier like faction and RIS.


Kreen







yeah me too.... problem there tho...... is it would make sense



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Ulrek_Oden
Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:58 am
#5

Sadly with those energy stats.... unbelieveably... this armor will be somewhat unattractive to the average BH as there marks generally use energy weapons.



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WittyNewt
Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:19 am
#6






Ulrek_Oden wrote:

Sadly with those energy stats.... unbelieveably... this armor will be somewhat unattractive to the average BH as there marks generally use energy weapons.






Hmm,I would have thought that your average BH wants this no matter what the stats are for the posing value alone. Until of course every man and his dog is wearing it.


People manage fine with unlayered battle armor, 6000 across the board, I have made several primus layered RIS suits for BH customers for jedi hunting. The extra couple of percent you get on energy layered recon certainly helps a bit but other factors like your template and tactics play a bigger part I think.






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Ulrek_Oden
Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:31 am
#7

Certainly strategy counts... but so does armor and every little bit counts...


I would also think that this suit will command a fairly good primium..


As for posing value LOL.... maybe...


I guess it all depends on what the price will be for a complete suit...



Any guesses? What would you charge?



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ZionHalcyon
Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:12 am
#8






Capt_Obvious wrote:





WittyNewt wrote:

Yuck, ok thanks. I was hoping it would have a 1.5 or 2x multiplier like faction and RIS.


Kreen







yeah me too.... problem there tho...... is it would make sense






The thing is, the schematics seem to drop about every 3rd to 5th guy, so they are not as rare as RIS, and they don't require a sick amount of faction to equip.



So actually, about 50k condition is fair.





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Darkmatt
Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:35 am
#9

can you color the armor?
WittyNewt
Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:06 am
#10






Ulrek_Oden wrote:

Certainly strategy counts... but so does armor and every little bit counts...


I would also think that this suit will command a fairly good primium..


As for posing value LOL.... maybe...


I guess it all depends on what the price will be for a complete suit...



Any guesses? What would you charge?





Yes agreed, sometimes every little bit does count, folks are always looking for any small edge.


If the customer was supplying the schematics then I would charge my standard RIS price of 100-200K per piece depending on the type of core they want. This price is based on the core materials, my time, and that fact that I would be using server best resources in the final combine and using my gathered skill clothes, FS crafting skillsand food/drink to ensure no mistakes on what are after all 1 use schematics.


If I were selling crafted pieces, then the above price would have an adder to take account of the price I paid for the schematics or the time it took based on drop rates etc for me to gather them with my BH alt. These are unknowns at present, so its difficult for me togive a price. As a comparison, if a customer wants RIS and I supply the loot thenI charge 800K per piece.





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Zissod
Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:19 am
#11






ZionHalcyon wrote:





Capt_Obvious wrote:





WittyNewt wrote:

Yuck, ok thanks. I was hoping it would have a 1.5 or 2x multiplier like faction and RIS.


Kreen







yeah me too.... problem there tho...... is it would make sense






The thing is, the schematics seem to drop about every 3rd to 5th guy, so they are not as rare as RIS, and they don't require a sick amount of faction to equip.



So actually, about 50k condition is fair.







But RIS loot is a joke to get now...yes schems drop, but getting a full set of schems seems to be more of pain in the arse than getting RIS loot based on impressions from the BH board and trade forums.




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WittyNewt
Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:23 am
#12






ZionHalcyon wrote:





Capt_Obvious wrote:





WittyNewt wrote:

Yuck, ok thanks. I was hoping it would have a 1.5 or 2x multiplier like faction and RIS.


Kreen







yeah me too.... problem there tho...... is it would make sense






The thing is, the schematics seem to drop about every 3rd to 5th guy, so they are not as rare as RIS, and they don't require a sick amount of faction to equip.



So actually, about 50k condition is fair.








Well maybe, but these are 1 use schematics. I can go visit lok and yavin and pretty much guarantee that in a few hours I will have gathered enough RIS loot to make at least one suit since the loot drops quite frequently and it comes in stacks of multiple items.


Took me about 1 hour last night to do 3 BH missions and I looted 2 schematics. I think I was lucky based on other posts I have seen so my guess is 1 in 3 sounds more reasonable we will see I guess.


If the schematic was 3 use then I would agree with you. Since its one use I think it should have at least the 1.5 multipler faction has. Moot point anyway, because theres a long list of things I would want the devs to address rather than this. Maybe, they can do this as part of a condition rebalance across the armor range to remove the anomalies such as very high wookie chestplates even though the biceps and bracers are separate now, a boost for mabari chestplates and ubese chestplates since they cover multiple hit boxes etc.






Offer my winnings to the resource vendor at:

ZK Combat Gear - 800m from Threed Starport on Naboo, waypoint -4643 3380

Kreen - Armorsmith+2, Artisan, Merchant, Master Carbineer. RIS Certified
Moeru - The all new SOE harvesting template MBH, MRifles Pistols 0404. (Goodbye Master Ranger until the revamp)

Click for armor colour charts and Click for armor style pictures
Click for health enhancer faq and Click for health armor examples


Darkmatt
Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:25 am
#13






Darkmatt wrote:

can you color the armor?




can you color the armor?
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