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Thread: Another (actally 2) RIS Questions?

darthbock
Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:57 pm
#1








Cerosis wrote:

Now with the peko peko feathers, and the +20 armor enhancements(they have to be enhancements, if they are layers i don't think they work...







Nice writeup, missed it the first time. Pre-CU NS Layers were converted about a month after the CU to be the equivalent of +20 NS fragments, which are battle segment enhancers. So, this gentleman has the most ideal enhancers for battle armor. All of his pre-CU feathers should craft out to +20 as well, so each piece will be overkill and hit the +50 health cap with +10health to spare.




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Prerost
Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:17 pm
#2


I'm looking to have a set built on my server. (Tempest)

What kind of stats and health bonus should be able to be guaranteed with the following components and enhancers?

If I let the armorsmith keep all the extra componants below how much (I understand roughly) should this cost me?


2 - Interwoven RIS Schematics (not needed anymore?)

10 - Giant Dune Kimoglia Scales

10 - Woolmander Harrower Bone Fragments

10 - Gurk King Hides

10 - Pre-CU Peko Peko Albatros Feathers


Enhancers:

+20 Health Nightsister Armor Layers

Set of 10

Set of 8

Set of 8

Set of 7


Yellow Genosian Cubes (not needed anymore?)

7%, 16, 16 set of 4

6%, 16, 12 set of 2

6%, 11, 16 set of 5


Thank you,



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BigfootKC
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:04 pm
#3

you can use the two 8 stacks to make 6 cores, they can make legs and helm with +50 if you add feathers to those. Then use the 7 stack and 2 from the 10 stack to make 9 enhanced segments. Take those 9 and make 4 arm pieces with 2 segments each, add feathers and you are at the +50.

Make a 6 segments with the 8 stack and get 6 cores with 1 seg in each, add a feather and youll have +40 on the chest.

So youll end up at +340 health.

As far as i see its the best you can do, unless you have more enhancers. The smith would then get 2 +20 cores and 1 set of components + a feather. He might want more than that in payment



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Cerosis
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:09 pm
#4

Ok, the geo cubes and the interwoven ris schematics are no longer needed. As for stats that will depend on the battle cores you are using(you can use looted cores, but seeing that it's hard enough to get RIS armor, you might want to put some player made Quad Layered cores in there)

Next you have to ask yourself do you want Energy, or Primus layered. If you're using the armor for Bounty Hunting against either Jedi OR NPC's you'll want to use Energy Layers. (most NPC's use blasters of some kind anyway) If you are using the armor for every day other stuff, i would change it to Primus Layers as you never know what you might encounter(for example, corvette runs, or a trip to the dwb with involve energy weapons, where as hunting Piket's or Narglatch's will involve kinetic dmg)

Now with the peko peko feathers, and the +20 armor enhancements(they have to be enhancements, if they are layers i don't think they work... somebody else could check for me would be nice) you should be able to make a suit with +350 health bonus's over the whole thing. But to do this you'll need to make a bunch of Segments with the Armor enhancers(which is a pain because of the requirement of each peice having the same serial number, resulting in multiple factory runs just for your similar segments so that you can make your identical battle cores(remember, you need 3 identicle ones on the chest, 2 on the helmet and 2 on the leggings)

The tough part will be getting a +50 on the chest piece. As you need 3 identical cores, which means 9 segments(all needing enhancers) One trick you can do here is make a run of 8, and a run of 4 segments in the factory, then juse use 2 of the first run, and 1 from the second to make a run of 3 battle cores. Over all it's a challenging process, and is the main reason why a lot of armorsmiths don't stock armor with enhancements. But if you're making a special order suit(for yourself, friend, customer you really like lol) then it will take a lot of time and effort.

Of course, explaining that to the every day customer can take forever as most customers don't have a clue about crafting, factory runs, etc.



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Cerosis
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:12 pm
#5



BigfootKC wrote:
you can use the two 8 stacks to make 6 cores, they can make legs and helm with +50 if you add feathers to those. Then use the 7 stack and 2 from the 10 stack to make 9 enhanced segments. Take those 9 and make 4 arm pieces with 2 segments each, add feathers and you are at the +50.

Make a 6 segments with the 8 stack and get 6 cores with 1 seg in each, add a feather and youll have +40 on the chest.

So youll end up at +340 health.

As far as i see its the best you can do, unless you have more enhancers. The smith would then get 2 +20 cores and 1 set of components + a feather. He might want more than that in payment


no, he should be able to make a +350 suit with those enhancers. at least i think so lol.



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Kesslan
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:35 pm
#6


even if he doesnt. It woudl be easy to balance it out using some lesser enhacners or something. Or all else fails. Go kill acklay a bunch of times untll youloot an interwoven segment. Those seem to add +13hp on average right at the final combine level (So wtih a feather and an enhanced set of cores it should cap it out at 50)



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darthbock
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:44 pm
#7







Prerost wrote:


I'm looking to have a set built on my server. (Tempest)

What kind of stats and health bonus should be able to be guaranteed with the following components and enhancers?

If I let the armorsmith keep all the extra componants below how much (I understand roughly) should this cost me?


2 - Interwoven RIS Schematics (not needed anymore?)

10 - Giant Dune Kimoglia Scales

10 - Woolmander Harrower Bone Fragments

10 - Gurk King Hides

10 - Pre-CU Peko Peko Albatros Feathers


Enhancers:

+20 Health Nightsister Armor Layers

Set of 10

Set of 8

Set of 8

Set of 7


Yellow Genosian Cubes (not needed anymore?)

7%, 16, 16 set of 4

6%, 16, 12 set of 2

6%, 11, 16 set of 5


Thank you,





Run off about 180-200 of the type of armor layer you want used. Use layers from this run in all of your schems for this suit.


Do a run of non-enhnanced segments,15 or so.



Turn the set of 10 NS layers into 9 segments via a factory run. Set one segment aside. Make a 3-use schem of a core using 2 of these enhanced segments and an additional non-enhanced segment (fromthe factory run of 40 above). Use the rest of the enhanced segments (6 left) and 3 more from the non-enh run to run off 3 matching cores from this schematic. These arefor the chest. They will come out at +40 health.


Take your two sets of 8 NS layers. Make a segment schem using one from each stack, and run off 7 segments from each (14 enahnced segments total). Set 3 segments from each run aside. Use one segment from each run in addition to a non-enhanced sgement to make a 4-use schematic for enhanced cores, and run the schematic. These 4 matching cores will make your helm and legs. They also should be +40 health.


You now have 7 +20 health segments (one form the chest run and 6 from the leg/helm run)left and a set of 7 NS layers. Take one of the NS layers and hand craft it into an enhanced segment. You now have 8 enhanced segments. Use these in addition to 4 non-enhanced segments to hand-craft 4 cores (2 enh segs and one non per core).


You now have 3 identicalcores (chest), 4 identicalcores (legs/helm), and 4 mismatchedcores (arm pieces).


Craft 7 peko feathers into appearance enhancers.


Do the final RIS combines using the +40 cores and a Feather Enhancer on each appearance.


Viola, a capped +350 suit of RIS with 6 spare matching +20 NS layers, 3 pre-CU peko feathers, and one of eachof the RIS componets left over.



edit - clarified it a bit

edit 2: corrected non-enhanced segment amount from 40 (enough for a suit ) to 15

Message Edited by darthbock on 08-29-2005 10:00 PM



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darthbock
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:52 pm
#8

The above recipe is how to get 350 health out of the enhancers you have. You no longer need the interwoven schematics or geo cubes. The resists will be the same as on any other battle armor the smith crafts. The condition will be roughly double that of a normal armor depending on the smith's RIS appearance resource quality. You should expect 95-105k condition for top-notch RIS. Pricing varies wildly both from server to server and within a server due to quality and experience, so I cannot help you there.



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darthbock
Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:57 pm
#9








Cerosis wrote:

Now with the peko peko feathers, and the +20 armor enhancements(they have to be enhancements, if they are layers i don't think they work...







Nice writeup, missed it the first time. Pre-CU NS Layers were converted about a month after the CU to be the equivalent of +20 NS fragments, which are battle segment enhancers. So, this gentleman has the most ideal enhancers for battle armor. All of his pre-CU feathers should craft out to +20 as well, so each piece will be overkill and hit the +50 health cap with +10health to spare.




Aedyl Voivai
Crafter of Fine RIS and Mandalorian Armor
~Warden Armor Works~
Vendors in the ~Violet Accomplice~ Tent
-3348 5910 Tranquility, Naboo
Prerost
Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:42 pm
#10

wow.


You guys are the greatest!


Makes me wanna respec to AS just to hang in these forums.



:-)


Thanks for the replies!





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Cerosis
Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:16 pm
#11



darthbock wrote:


Cerosis wrote:

Now with the peko peko feathers, and the +20 armor enhancements(they have to be enhancements, if they are layers i don't think they work...



Nice writeup, missed it the first time. Pre-CU NS Layers were converted about a month after the CU to be the equivalent of +20 NS fragments, which are battle segment enhancers. So, this gentleman has the most ideal enhancers for battle armor. All of his pre-CU feathers should craft out to +20 as well, so each piece will be overkill and hit the +50 health cap with +10health to spare.



Thank you, I am new to armorsmith, but I'm learning fast, and try to help where i can.



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JediSpam
Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:43 pm
#12






Prerost wrote:

wow.


You guys are the greatest!


Makes me wanna respec to AS just to hang in these forums.



:-)


Thanks for the replies!







Yup, these guys are great!



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darthbock
Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:00 pm
#13

Logic problems are my weakness, I have a compulsion to solve them when I see them Glad we could help you out



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