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Thread: Bloodfin GCW Rebs: 1 Billion Imps: 0 and I need to make factional armor!
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LeviticusD
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:51 am
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So my question is, if you are losing on every planet, does the ratio thing still come into play or is the faction cost for factional schematics the same on all losing planets. If I don't have to scour the galaxy to find a planet we are only sort of losing on, then I don't want to (the planet my shop is on is like 600 to 1! Lol!)
Brutus_Krylop
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:52 am
#2
Man, I'm proud to have done my part in ensuring that ratio ... 
LeviticusD
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:56 am
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Brutus_Krylop wrote:
Man, I'm proud to have done my part in ensuring that ratio ...
/slap For making my life difficult!
JeCy
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:13 am
#4
yea i made a post about this a whlie back.. and was flamed by everyone for coming up with some ideas.. there basic responce was afk faction farming..instead of supporting your local smugglers.. I happen to be on one of the few servers that imps are always wining.. though finally rebs took back a planet and i got some made
Je'Cy
LeviticusD
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:25 am
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JeCy wrote:
yea i made a post about this a whlie back.. and was flamed by everyone for coming up with some ideas.. there basic responce was afk faction farming..instead of supporting your local smugglers.. I happen to be on one of the few servers that imps are always wining.. though finally rebs took back a planet and i got some made
Je'Cy
I don't care about the price, I just care if it is different on each planet based on the losing ratio or if it is all the same at that point. I'm talking about how lazy can I get away with and that is something this community will understand!
finelinebob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:10 pm
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BigPapaHoss wrote:
SoI got you to thank for the cheap faction prices? thanks
Me and my team, wrt Rori, but other Rebel base killer teams are at work on other planets. We're proud founders of the Keep Rori Beautiful Committee, and the Keep Talus Beautiful Committee, and ...
JediSpam
Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:03 pm
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LeviticusD wrote:
So my question is, if you are losing on every planet, does the ratio thing still come into play or is the faction cost for factional schematics the same on all losing planets. If I don't have to scour the galaxy to find a planet we are only sort of losing on, then I don't want to (the planet my shop is on is like 600 to 1! Lol!)
Dude, the same thing is happening on our server.
The damn Impo's are leading on every planet. They never show up for PvP because they're too chicken and are too busy destoying bases in the meantime. LOL
And yeah, the price is the same whetherthe ratio1.00001:1 or 99999999999:1. As long as you're losing, you're gonna have to pay max. That's why I just set up a cheap Forward Outpost base behind my factories and buymy schematicsthere. Less hassle. I think we're losing like 5:3 now on Naboo.
-Droideka-
Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:34 pm
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question here though, does the ratio matter when you're winning on a planet, because I'm still paying 6500+ on a 3:1 ratio planet where we're ahead. Lowest I've paid is 3k per schem, a long time ago...no matter where I go I end up paying 6-7k per schem these days.
JediSpam
Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:43 pm
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-Droideka- wrote:
question here though, does the ratio matter when you're winning on a planet, because I'm still paying 6500+ on a 3:1 ratio planet where we're ahead. Lowest I've paid is 3k per schem, a long time ago...no matter where I go I end up paying 6-7k per schem these days.
Well, it's supposed to matter.
Dunno if you're bugged, but try hopping around different planets.
Also check player made bases instead of the NPC's in the cities.
finelinebob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:09 pm
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-Droideka- wrote:
question here though, does the ratio matter when you're winning on a planet, because I'm still paying 6500+ on a 3:1 ratio planet where we're ahead. Lowest I've paid is 3k per schem, a long time ago...no matter where I go I end up paying 6-7k per schem these days.
My observations say that the ratio does not matter as much as the actual score of the losing side. Or, perhaps, it's just so easy for the losing side to screw the ratio. Say your side is winning 1000 to 100 -- 10:1. The other side buys one SF HQ and gets 2 PvE TacCenters ... 36 points right there and your ratio is now 7:1. One more purchase and the ratio drops under 6:1. Combine that with an equation that calculates prices on a non-linear basis and it takes an extremely favorable ratio to get your prices low. In other words, you may think "we just doubled our ratio from 2:1 to 4:1, so prices should be cut in half" ... that just isn't how it works.
I've been thinking about starting a toon on Kettemoor to test this. GCW planetary scores are pretty low across the board, so dropping or killing even a few bases should have a big impact on perk prices.
Bottom line again: You want cheap prices? Learn how to slice a base, then work your tail off for a week taking out every single enemy base on one single planet. When you have a score like 1121-0 like it is on Rori for my server, the ratio is infinite or undefined ... division by zero error. THAT is when you get stuff cheap!
Aside to JediSpam, one Reb to another ... so, what's your server?
MonKaiku
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:32 pm
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-Droideka- wrote:
question here though, does the ratio matter when you're winning on a planet, because I'm still paying 6500+ on a 3:1 ratio planet where we're ahead. Lowest I've paid is 3k per schem, a long time ago...no matter where I go I end up paying 6-7k per schem these days.
I love those TFO guys. Always have at least one planet where schems are good prices
BigPapaHoss
Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:18 am
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nope, you are gonna pay like 3 times as much for the schematics. I waited and the planetI got them from got back in rebel hands(1121-0) Otherwise most planets were charging me almost 6k for a schematic I knew I could get for 2k when rebels were doing better. So I waited, and now have all 3 made and on my vendor 
finelinebob
Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:25 am
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LeviticusD wrote:So my question is, if you are losing on every planet, does the ratio thing still come into play or is the faction cost for factional schematics the same on all losing planets.
The actual ratio does not matter. Even being tied doesn't matter. Unless you have the lead, you will pay the top price for faction perks. If armor schematics follow the same formula as bases, turrets and minefields, then that means if you are on a planet where the score is tied or your faction is losing, it will cost you 3x the lowest possible price.
Same applies in the other direction -- the ratio doesn't tell the whole story. Reductions in price depend more on how small the other faction's GCW score is, not the ratio. If you want the best possible price, piling bases onto a planet won't get you there (one planet on my server recently had a score of 1750 Imp to 200 Reb, and Imp perks were still something like 20% higher than the lowest price).
Bottom line: if you want to buy stuff cheap, eliminate every enemy base from a planet. And I'm speaking from experience here
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