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Thread: HELP!!! on armor colors.
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jason67
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:54 am
#1
This may sound like a stupid bone headed question but for specific reasons it's important to me.
I wanted to find out if anyone has a screenshot of the color templates with the specific names of each color on it. I know most of you are thinking well duh... look at it lol. Which would be fine if I could tell what colors they were by looking at them lol. I'm 1/2 red/green colorblind, which means I can see color but not always the right ones lol. Anything that has any shading of red or green in it is difficult at best for me to determine the color(ie green and brown simply look like different shades of the same color, so a light brown and a dark green may look like the same exact color to me while looking completely different to others, same thing goes with purple and blue, and several other color combinations). It gets especially difficult when they start going to those damn pastel colors and stuff as well. Is there a current post or would someone be willing to make a post that will give me the colors for the corresponding palletes.
It would probably require someone to simply put a number inside of the color square then to print out a key on the side with the numbers and cooresponding color name next to it.
Thanks for any help that you guys can provide in this seemingly simple issue lol.
Message Edited by jason67 on 03-23-2005 10:55 AM
Zabava
Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:23 am
#2
I find some "colour by names"schemsvery helpfull for me as I don't know english names for many colours, I don't know if it can help you...
Baccarat
Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:53 pm
#4
Not a bone headed question at all.. I can imagine crafting as a color blind person would be hard.
I've seen several color palettes for various armor types posted in the armorsmith forum (recently i saw padded, but i can't find the link). Here's some palettes for RIS, you can show your customers. Good luck!
Baccarat
Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:54 pm
#5
Sorry i misread your question.. the palette i linked doesn't give color names, but it is something you can show to your customer and have them give you a letter code.
rgrocott
Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:53 pm
#6
I'm not sure that the colours on the palette even have specific 'names', as such. If anyone knows different, then please correct me, but I wouldn't even know what to call most of them. Hell, I'm not colourblind and I have a hard time telling which is the true black and which is just a really dark shade of blue or green.
Sorry I can't be more helpful to you 
rgrocott
Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:46 pm
#7
OK, I lied, I can be more helpful 
I've put a grid reference around the more detailed colour pallette, and this is the link to the image
Now, what follows is a very clumsy attempt at describing each set of colours. Several of the colour groups are extremely close, at least from the look of this pallette. They may look more distinct when crafted and worn, I honestly don't know. I won't be at all offended if people correct me, be it by chiming in with the correct names of certain colours, or just outright disagreement 
Each colour group comes in 8 shades, moving from light to dark. It has been my experience that when worn, armour will appear
darker than the pallette indicates, but since it's only certain colours you have trouble with, and not shades in any case, I probably didn't need to tell you that
1A to 1H - green/grey, maybe slightly brownish-grey?
1I to 2B - Hmm... a slightly blueish grey at the dark end, looks more yellowed than anything at the light end 
2C to 2J - a slightly greyish blue
2K to 3D - very similar to 1I to 2B, but slightly closer to pure grey, maybe
3E to 3L - tan (yellowy brown) 3M to 4F - grey to black, with a hint of colour to it, but I'm damned if I know what - best guess: blue
4G to 4N - pure white to pure black
5A to 5H - greeny brown, 'olive' might be the best description
5I to 6B - washed-out green (pastel kinda colour)
6C to 6J - slightly greyer and darker version of 5I to 6B
6K to 7D - pale yellow through to a pastel orange (fairly washed out)
7E to 7L - pastel orange-brown - probably the closest match to 'caucasian' on the pallette
7M to 8F - hard to describe. A slightly decolourised or washed-out purple is the best I can put it, but the darkest version looks really good on comp
8G to 8N - sky-blue
9A to 9H - bright red
9I to 10B - dark blue
10C to 10J - dark red
10K to 11D - mid-green
Hopefully, some other people may be able to better describe some of these colours, but I hope that's a start. If you post which colours are hardest for you to differentiate, then someone can go into more detail on those ones
Edit: Paste from notepad got messed up, it took out all the breaks I wanted, and put in loads I didn't 
Message Edited by rgrocott on 03-23-2005 11:53 PM
rgrocott
Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:56 pm
#8
FYI, I messed about with the image a bit, and obviously saving it as a .gif cuts down on colour density, so use the linked image as a reference only, everything on that pic seems to look a bit lighter than the pallette did in-game.
rgrocott
Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:01 pm
#9
Couldn't get the formatting right by editing, hopefully the above is less messed up. I hate these forums
rgrocott wrote:
OK, I lied, I can be more helpful
I've put a grid reference around the more detailed colour pallette, and this is the link to the image (see above post for link)
Now, what follows is a very clumsy attempt at describing each set of colours. Several of the colour groups are extremely close, at least from the look of this pallette. They may look more distinct when crafted and worn, I honestly don't know. I won't be at all offended if people correct me, be it by chiming in with the correct names of certain colours, or just outright disagreement
Each colour group comes in 8 shades, moving from light to dark. It has been my experience that when worn, armour will appear darker than the pallette indicates, but since it's only certain colours you have trouble with, and not shades in any case, I probably didn't need to tell you that
1A to 1H - green/grey, maybe slightly brownish-grey?
1I to 2B - Hmm... a slightly blueish grey at the dark end, looks more yellowed than anything at the light end
2C to 2J - a slightly greyish blue
2K to 3D - very similar to 1I to 2B, but slightly closer to pure grey, maybe
3E to 3L - tan (yellowy brown)
3M to 4F - grey to black, with a hint of colour to it, but I'm damned if I know what - best guess: blue
4G to 4N - pure white to pure black
5A to 5H - greeny brown, 'olive' might be the best description
5I to 6B - washed-out green (pastel kinda colour)
6C to 6J - slightly greyer and darker version of 5I to 6B
6K to 7D - pale yellow through to a pastel orange (fairly washed out)
7E to 7L - pastel orange-brown - probably the closest match to 'caucasian' on the pallette
7M to 8F - hard to describe. A slightly decolourised or washed-out purple is the best I can put it, but the darkest version looks really good on comp
8G to 8N - sky-blue
9A to 9H - bright red
9I to 10B - dark blue
10C to 10J - dark red
10K to 11D - mid-green
Hopefully, some other people may be able to better describe some of these colours, but I hope that's a start. If you post which colours are hardest for you to differentiate, then someone can go into more detail on those ones
Edit: Paste from notepad got messed up, it took out all the breaks I wanted, and put in loads I didn't
Message Edited by rgrocott on 03-23-2005 11:53 PM
Govo
Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:12 pm
#10
rgrocott wrote:
OK, I lied, I can be more helpful
I've put a grid reference around the more detailed colour pallette, and this is the link to the image
Now, what follows is a very clumsy attempt at describing each set of colours. Several of the colour groups are extremely close, at least from the look of this pallette. They may look more distinct when crafted and worn, I honestly don't know. I won't be at all offended if people correct me, be it by chiming in with the correct names of certain colours, or just outright disagreement
Each colour group comes in 8 shades, moving from light to dark. It has been my experience that when worn, armour will appear
darker than the pallette indicates, but since it's only certain colours you have trouble with, and not shades in any case, I probably didn't need to tell you that
1A to 1H - green/grey, maybe slightly brownish-grey?
1I to 2B - Hmm... a slightly blueish grey at the dark end, looks more yellowed than anything at the light end
2C to 2J - a slightly greyish blue
2K to 3D - very similar to 1I to 2B, but slightly closer to pure grey, maybe
3E to 3L - tan (yellowy brown) 3M to 4F - grey to black, with a hint of colour to it, but I'm damned if I know what - best guess: blue
4G to 4N - pure white to pure black
5A to 5H - greeny brown, 'olive' might be the best description
5I to 6B - washed-out green (pastel kinda colour)
6C to 6J - slightly greyer and darker version of 5I to 6B
6K to 7D - pale yellow through to a pastel orange (fairly washed out)
7E to 7L - pastel orange-brown - probably the closest match to 'caucasian' on the pallette
7M to 8F - hard to describe. A slightly decolourised or washed-out purple is the best I can put it, but the darkest version looks really good on comp
8G to 8N - sky-blue
9A to 9H - bright red
9I to 10B - dark blue
10C to 10J - dark red
10K to 11D - mid-green
Hopefully, some other people may be able to better describe some of these colours, but I hope that's a start. If you post which colours are hardest for you to differentiate, then someone can go into more detail on those ones
Edit: Paste from notepad got messed up, it took out all the breaks I wanted, and put in loads I didn't
Message Edited by rgrocott on 03-23-2005 11:53 PM
Great post, I was gonna do the same thing for him...
Zabava
Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:56 pm
#11
http://dtp-aus.com/colrname.htm
I mean something like that, I don't know if it can help you...anyway, this codes are usable if you want to right in colour on you house or bags.
jason67
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:40 am
#12
rgrocott wrote:
OK, I lied, I can be more helpful
I've put a grid reference around the more detailed colour pallette, and this is the link to the image
Now, what follows is a very clumsy attempt at describing each set of colours. Several of the colour groups are extremely close, at least from the look of this pallette. They may look more distinct when crafted and worn, I honestly don't know. I won't be at all offended if people correct me, be it by chiming in with the correct names of certain colours, or just outright disagreement
Each colour group comes in 8 shades, moving from light to dark. It has been my experience that when worn, armour will appear
darker than the pallette indicates, but since it's only certain colours you have trouble with, and not shades in any case, I probably didn't need to tell you that
1A to 1H - green/grey, maybe slightly brownish-grey?
1I to 2B - Hmm... a slightly blueish grey at the dark end, looks more yellowed than anything at the light end
2C to 2J - a slightly greyish blue
2K to 3D - very similar to 1I to 2B, but slightly closer to pure grey, maybe
3E to 3L - tan (yellowy brown) 3M to 4F - grey to black, with a hint of colour to it, but I'm damned if I know what - best guess: blue
4G to 4N - pure white to pure black
5A to 5H - greeny brown, 'olive' might be the best description
5I to 6B - washed-out green (pastel kinda colour)
6C to 6J - slightly greyer and darker version of 5I to 6B
6K to 7D - pale yellow through to a pastel orange (fairly washed out)
7E to 7L - pastel orange-brown - probably the closest match to 'caucasian' on the pallette
7M to 8F - hard to describe. A slightly decolourised or washed-out purple is the best I can put it, but the darkest version looks really good on comp
8G to 8N - sky-blue
9A to 9H - bright red
9I to 10B - dark blue
10C to 10J - dark red
10K to 11D - mid-green
Hopefully, some other people may be able to better describe some of these colours, but I hope that's a start. If you post which colours are hardest for you to differentiate, then someone can go into more detail on those ones
Edit: Paste from notepad got messed up, it took out all the breaks I wanted, and put in loads I didn't
Message Edited by rgrocott on 03-23-2005 11:53 PM
Thanks for the helps guys, and yes the above is more what I was looking for. I can find the colors matched to HEX codes but that doesn't help me on the armor pallette because I can't match those colors with the HEX codes. The above is exactly what I needed so I can at least find which areas or lines are more common colors and work with those.
Milgram
Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:59 pm
#13
Autoit3, a macro program, has a sub program called autoit spy. It tells you the coords of your pointer, and also the hex color the pointer is on. If you play in windowed mode,autoit spy always stays on top, so you could defenently use it to show you in number form the color of whatever you are trying to craft. I do not remember the location of the program, but hopefully you can find it.
Good luck man.
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