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Thread: Tka 6k?? why bust butt?

JeCy
Wed May 11, 2005 8:51 am
#1

ive had an issue with this.. Why should TKA get 6k def in elemental and energy?? kin sure thats fine makes perfect since. But heat, acid, energy?? soo some combat skills would protect there bare skin when i toss them into a fire? Even a jedi who are supose to be the most powerful beings in the galaxie dont get this kinda protection atleast not in this way.


6k battle suits are hard to make you need tons of good stuff. im hiting over 90% in all stages and not getting to the 6k.


We have to use tons of incredible stuff to get to 6k which a tka gets for free. Also what about those people in assault or recon that always will have a whole. To me Tka is really blowing this whole balance give/take thing outta wack. bascially a tka/commando or tka SL, or tka BH has 8k kin, 8.5k energy, and 6k in every thing else.. no other class combo can come close to this def (thats a nice suit of assault and a PSG) top it off with health suit and a bunch of skill tapes and adk.. is there anything that can even come close as far as skill/armor based prof? to me this is way way way outta balance. Unless a tka loses all natural def when putting on armor.. i dont know if they do.. i guess if they did it would atleast be a start. But still energy and elemtal att 6k needs to go.



Je'Cy
freedomwarrior
Wed May 11, 2005 8:54 am
#2

Jedi get the elemental damage resists too mate. The ranged/melee def is generic but the force aura and valor arent.



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Katosan
Wed May 11, 2005 8:58 am
#3






JeCy wrote:

ive had an issue with this.. Why should TKA get 6k def in elemental and energy?? kin sure thats fine makes perfect since. But heat, acid, energy?? soo some combat skills would protect there bare skin when i toss them into a fire? Even a jedi who are supose to be the most powerful beings in the galaxie dont get this kinda protection atleast not in this way.


6k battle suits are hard to make you need tons of good stuff. im hiting over 90% in all stages and not getting to the 6k.


We have to use tons of incredible stuff to get to 6k which a tka gets for free. Also what about those people in assault or recon that always will have a whole. To me Tka is really blowing this whole balance give/take thing outta wack. bascially a tka/commando or tka SL, or tka BH has 8k kin, 8.5k energy, and 6k in every thing else.. no other class combo can come close to this def (thats a nice suit of assault and a PSG) top it off with health suit and a bunch of skill tapes and adk.. is there anything that can even come close as far as skill/armor based prof? to me this is way way way outta balance. Unless a tka loses all natural def when putting on armor.. i dont know if they do.. i guess if they did it would atleast be a start. But still energy and elemtal att 6k needs to go.



Je'Cy





Obviously you do not know SW Lore. The TK were the "checks" of the "checks and balances" formula concerning Jedi. Should the Jedi get overbearing, the TK's were there to bring them back into balance. They are supposed to be the only class out there that can take a Jedi.



The problem is that people can cross-combine TK's with another classes. They should not be able to do that. TK should be TK and maybe Ranger at most... they should not be able to combine with other classes as their order is required strict meditation and discipline in order to keep the balance.






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AndJusticeForAll
Wed May 11, 2005 9:01 am
#4

so make the TK grind as tedius and boring as jedi but they get better? Sounds good to me.... but if I have one in my sights at 64m and I hit his bare-a$$ with my t21 that dude should go DOWN. no armor... and good luck dodging blaster bolt lol.


TKs only option should be psg, no ifs ands or buts.



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JeCy
Wed May 11, 2005 10:10 am
#5

i thought TKA where supose to have been vaquished too? i dunno this game doesnt follow the lore at all really, obiwans speech to luke about vader hunting down all the jedi. wow that would be cool seeing vader out there wooping some jedi arse instead of sitting in his little retreat. any way tka gone isjust what someone told me..and no i dont really follow the extended universe.. just watched the movies a bazzillion times


but yea this tka combo thing seams to be a bit over powered as is.. soo what are tka.. some mythical magical beings?? like monks in dnd that there faith makes um impervious to attacks?? im talking in the lore not this game.. To me they are just an over powered def class.. if you let um wear assault that is and even with out armor their base does seam a bit storng.. maybe if you took tka and equiped a weapon or put on armor it would cancel there def bounus? I dunno.. this whole CU needs a major balance some classes are way over powered and some are pretty weak from what ive noticed.


Some that are supose to be tanks cant tank and otheres that are supose to be high damage and weak make better tanks. Makes not much since to me
justapilgrim
Wed May 11, 2005 11:29 am
#6

go TKM then



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Kempana
Wed May 11, 2005 3:04 pm
#7

As soon as a TK puts ANY armour on (boots, gloves anything) they lose the innate 6k they have.



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ravingbantha
Wed May 11, 2005 3:22 pm
#8






Katosan wrote:


Obviously you do not know SW Lore. The TK were the "checks" of the "checks and balances" formula concerning Jedi. Should the Jedi get overbearing, the TK's were there to bring them back into balance. They are supposed to be the only class out there that can take a Jedi.



The problem is that people can cross-combine TK's with another classes. They should not be able to do that. TK should be TK and maybe Ranger at most... they should not be able to combine with other classes as their order is required strict meditation and discipline in order to keep the balance.






And many jedi were at Least TKA's some were even TKM's. That training was part of the Jedi acadamy, to not know how to fight unarmed incase you ever lost your saber is rediculous. TK's may have been formed to counter Jedi, but Jedi learned their skills.

ShivKatal
Wed May 11, 2005 3:44 pm
#9

As stated, the TKA armor DOES NOT STACK.

As to the other point, there is some obscure evidence that Darth Maul for example integrated some TK techniques, which certainly makes sense if you watch his last big fight scene.
OhBuggah
Wed May 11, 2005 3:52 pm
#10

Why bust your butt? Because a vast majority of combatants are not Teras Kasi Masters.
NiBorg
Wed May 11, 2005 5:00 pm
#11

People complained about TK being overpowered before the CU because they could dizzy/KD and now people think they are still overpowered when they only have 4-5 attacks? So they can soak up a lot of damage and have built in armor that blocks about 48% (as Blix stated and said it's not a TRUE 6k) at MASTER. Big deal! They are supposed to be tough but cant do anywhere near the damage of most other professions. I have a TKM account and I did try him after the CU and guess what, he SUCKS now. This is a debate that shouldnt exist.
Arrakabukk
Wed May 11, 2005 5:09 pm
#12

I don't know where you guys are getting all this from. TKs are good at tanking, nothing else. They hardly do any damage, and if they equip a weapon or armor they DO LOSE THE INNATE ARMOR. I haven't seen any melee professions be effective in pvp and out of the melee ones I have seen in pvp TKA is the worst, sure they can live forever fighting someone but they don't do any damage. It makes a lot of sense that they have 6k armor sense that's their purpose, to avoid attacks/damage.




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Kesslan
Wed May 11, 2005 5:49 pm
#13

Indeed My combat toon was a MTK before CU. Tried ti abit after Cu didnt like it. ANd it didnt go well with ranged professions like commando as commandos dont get any special attacks and while their weapons do have 'specials' built in. The only one worth using for a commando is really the plasma flamethrower. As no other commando weapon can come anywhere NEAR the damage output of a plasma flamer. I tried that combo too. Doesnt work. Youc an tank like ther'es no tomorrow but your damage otuput remains pretty much crappy as hell.


TK goes well with any melee proff on the other hand. Just like most ranged professiosn combine togeather quite well. But there's a good reason why not everyone is a TK and hel if anythign there's less TKs now than there was pre-CU.





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