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Thread: How to Work with Your Smith on Sockets?
if you want to be sure not to scare him of you should tell him that you will buy everything untill he gets it right, maybe you can get him to put it on his vendor and when/if it sells he will give you the cash. Eiter way you are in for a very expencive suit unless hes very lucky
Bring the Armorsmith the loot to make three suits worth of parts. For Kashyyykian armors, 1 suit is 9 cores. +1 Seg schem and +1 Core schem. means you want stacks of 11 or more. 3 stacks per suit, so 9 total. All with +10 or better to health. You would also need 21 Peko feathers, that when addedwith 3 ofyour segment enhancer stacks produces +50 or better total bonus.
Bring the smith all these loot parts and allow him/her to keep the remenant parts if they can hit 4 sockets on all pieces earlier. Chances are they'll hit a few of them on the first attempt, but there is no guarantee. If for some reason they couldn't hit 4 sockets on all pieces, and its really still THAT important, see if the smith minds doing more pieces if you supply the loot to complete the set.
Bribes of really good hide always help too.
What I usually do is charge 4 times the price and give every single piece that was made to the person who ordered it. If I can make a full suit before burning all the cores, the customer may then order any additional pieces he wants made with the remaining cores. If I burn the coreout first, I tell them to get more loot, but no more increase in pricing.
I explain to them in detail the above and most understand.
Being a 12 point smith does seem to get better chances of hitting 4 sockets, but it's still pretty much random. You can get anywhere between 0-4 sockets.
They're evil, they've been demoted, and they're pissed.
(well, maybe not chech). It's a good question and I think you would have to pay at least a premium on the time spent. He still might be able to sell the non-3 socket pieces, but the time and effort in loot enhanced armor is what really raises the price. You might have to pay regardless of whether or not it has four sockets. Also realize that it will take TIME maybe over a week (he'll have other orders also) before you get it done. Let him know all this (in an email not a tell) and they might be willing to talk to you and work out the specifics.
I used to have me and my smuggler go into a half hour of mantric prayer and meditation on my throw pillow. We'd sit there... silently mumbling words of divine meaning... And yet, the gods were not satisfied. Lost so many 250+ Acklay Boned Power Hammers to them, I often thought about breaking down in fits of tears... It was hard times indeed.
Personally as long as in a scenario like that some one provided the HP enhancers and paid for materials. I'd probably be willing to take a shot at it. But then I'm insane. (Afterall I've mastered and maintain both armor and weapon vendors at 12pt level).
Thats assuming of course that I'm then selling off the pieces they dont want. Sure they might sit around a while. But being alrleady paid for resources, I could discount the unwanted pieces. Meaning that they'd be more likely to sell (And thus get paid for the time involved that way). But I'm sure you'll find every smith will have a different reaction and/or deal they'd be willing to go for. So it never hurts to ask around anyway. Most wont /ignore you just for making a request such as that. At least as long as you make some menting of willing to work out some sort of deal regarding the unwanted parts.
By the way....
Been experimenting with tailored items and sockets. I'd always been told "It's random" ... so much so that I never bothered to question it. Long story short: Assembly matters. Can't really say how much, but the difference between +140 vs +100 was statistically significant.
QuarEstee wrote:
By the way....
Been experimenting with tailored items and sockets. I'd always been told "It's random" ... so much so that I never bothered to question it. Long story short: Assembly matters. Can't really say how much, but the difference between +140 vs +100 was statistically significant.
some people on the tailors forums did some extensive research on sockets and determined that it is the customization mod that affects the roll on the number of sockets, not assembly or experimentation. dont have the thread handy, but do a search, it's out there somewhere.
when one of my customers requests armor with 4 sockets, i tell them that socketing is fairly random, and that i'd be happy to get them a piece of armor with 4 sockets, but they are going to have to pay for every piece i craft that has less than 4 sockets. if i hit 4 sockets on the first shot, they pay the normal price, if it takes me 5 pieces, they buy all 5. i of course give them the pieces that did not hit 4 sockets as well.
Grendelwyf wrote:
when one of my customers requests armor with 4 sockets, i tell them that socketing is fairly random, and that i'd be happy to get them a piece of armor with 4 sockets, but they are going to have to pay for every piece i craft that has less than 4 sockets. if i hit 4 sockets on the first shot, they pay the normal price, if it takes me 5 pieces, they buy all 5. i of course give them the pieces that did not hit 4 sockets as well.
This is exactly what I do, as well. I think I've made something like a dozen +350 4PL RIS suits this way. Yes, it was painful.