Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Health Enhanced Armor Worked Examples for Smiths and Customers
Health enhancer worked examples
Contents
Quick take aways
What loot for what quick list
How to reach the 50 hp cap with post CU loot
Key Facts about health enhancer crafting
Some groundrules
The examples
I thought I would throw this thread up here to supplement the excellent Thula's Loot Guide and provide a selection of worked examples on how to health enhance a suit of armor depending on what you have available or what you can find on the bazaar, or even what a customer brings you (for those smiths out there). I see many questions on this forum and get many emails about what is needed from customers, how to reach the cap per piece etc. I hope this helps a bit to answer those questions ![]()
The examples are quite detailed to start with but get less detailed further down.
feel free to add corrections, additional info,your own examples into this thread and I will update.If this is a useless thread then let me know. I was bored at work and felt like writing something non work related ![]()
First, the quick take aways: read these if you are a customer at the very least ![]()
Three stacks of 13 segment enhancers is the easiest way to fully enhance a set of 11 cores for a full suit of armor. Failing that, supply the smith with the following at a minimum.
1) three stacks of five for the chestplate (assuming not ubese and mabari) 2) three stacks of four for the helmet 3) three stacks of four for the leggings 4) twelve other enhancers, whether stacked or not, for the arms
- To cap recon and assault pieces (BH armor) you will need to supply both segment enhancers and final assembly enhancers (feathered apperance made using peko feathers or interwoven appearance made using acklay enhancers)
- To cap battle pieces,(RIS) you can do it without peko feathers only if you supply a minimum of 13 same serial pre CU ns layers with +20 stats, or several smaller same serial runs with one of at least 5 pieces.
- Peko feathers are your friends

- Stacks of 13 segment enhancers are your friends

- Supply the smith will more segment enhancers than you think they need and agree what happens to any leftovers.
Short loot List
For much more detail on the loot use Thula's Loot Guide
But nice work nonetheless.
ToriStarshaker wrote:
Nice work hun, just one suggestion - change font size for the visually impaired
good point
pykescylla wrote:
I'll never get anyone to actually read this.
But nice work nonetheless.
I think you might be right
Message Edited by WittyNewt on 09-28-2005 06:34 PM
Could you please use a font different than Times New Roman? Going for a different look than Verdana is great, but serif fonts like Times are designed for large blocks of text that are printed, not displayed on a screen. They can work well in small doses, like Pyke's sig, but until we get displays with atleast 300ppi resolution, monitors just can't display them well enough.
Anyone know any good sans-serif windows fonts? And please don't say Comic Sans MS! I'm more of a Mac person myself, so I don't really pay attention to the Dark Side.
[In non-technical terms for those who don't know, serif fonts have all the little feet and brackets and do-hickeys sticking off the letters. Actually makes them easier to read in large blocks of printed text. Letters also tend to get thin in some places, thick in others. Hard on monitors to display properly. Sans-serif means "without serifs" so these are the typefaces with simple letters ... no feet or brackets or do-hickeys. They also tend to have uniform thicknesses for their letters. Easier on the eye when looking at monitors or headlines.]
/nitpickOff
Good idea. For something as complex as this can be, having a variety of concrete examples lets n00bs like me get up to speed more easily!
QuarEstee wrote:
I hate to pick nits ... but I'm gonna do it anyway
Could you please use a font different than Times New Roman? Going for a different look than Verdana is great, but serif fonts like Times are designed for large blocks of text that are printed, not displayed on a screen. They can work well in small doses, like Pyke's sig, but until we get displays with atleast 300ppi resolution, monitors just can't display them well enough.
Anyone know any good sans-serif windows fonts? And please don't say Comic Sans MS! I'm more of a Mac person myself, so I don't really pay attention to the Dark Side.
[In non-technical terms for those who don't know, serif fonts have all the little feet and brackets and do-hickeys sticking off the letters. Actually makes them easier to read in large blocks of printed text. Letters also tend to get thin in some places, thick in others. Hard on monitors to display properly. Sans-serif means "without serifs" so these are the typefaces with simple letters ... no feet or brackets or do-hickeys. They also tend to have uniform thicknesses for their letters. Easier on the eye when looking at monitors or headlines.]
/nitpickOff
Good idea. For something as complex as this can be, having a variety of concrete examples lets n00bs like me get up to speed more easily!
As nit picky as this is, it's good advice. Just a little too hard to read on a monitor in that font.
pykescylla wrote:
Got anything against good ol' Arial?
Since we're being typography nerds:
I think the real weakness of using a serif font in this application is that it is reversed in this forum (light on black). That tends to make all the little tails on the letters even more indistinct. When we read, we recognize words by their shape as much as by the letters they contain. The little tails on the serif characters tend to link them together making it easier to discern the shape of the word.
Pardon us peeps while we typoNerds hijack the thread a sec.
You are 100% correct about color, or brightness in particular. Looking back at the original post (before the font gets changed!) it's the text in white that is hardest to read. High contrast is usually a good thing, but wrt monitors and type I think the level of contrast of white type on black background is just too fuzzy to make out fine details. And if you want to see the effect of serifs on word recognition, print out the same paragraph in Times and in Helvetica, then cover up the bottom half or the top half of a line and get someone to read it.
Arial is fine, but I'm not even sure if it was designed with Postscript in mind. It may pre-date that. The main purpose of Arial was to avoid paying licensing fees to Haas’sche Schriftgiesserei (woot! Wikipedia FTW!). One of the few truly benificent acts that Microsoft has done was to commission two top-flight typographers to design one font each for use in web browsers ... and then MS gave them away for free. Verdana was the sans-serif font, Georgia the serif font. I tend to prefer Verdana to Arial because character widths in Verdana are larger than Arial. One other freely-distributed sans-serif font that MS produced is Trebuchet MS, a lightly funked-up sans-serif. Depending on your system, you should/might see different things below:
This sentence is in Georgia, HTML size 4.
This sentence is in Verdana, HTML size 4.
This sentence is in Arial, HTML size 4.
This sentence is in Trebuchet MS, HTML size 4.
I switched over to Graphical Editor mode ... what a horror! Half the fonts listed under Font Name aren't in the typical install of XP Home! And don't get me started on how the forum engine and MSIE butcher posts ... too bad the engine works so wretchedly in Firefox. HTML mode works just fine in Safari, tho
ah well...
/endHijack4Now
WittyNewt wrote:
Ok, although an engineer by background, fonts is really not my forteI have changed it to Comic Sans, is that any better?
Much! Thanks! Even the white text is easy to read with this font
I sympathize with having to edit in Word, tho. When it comes to web pages, Word manages to foul up just about everything. When I taught HTML, I'd use documents saved by Word as examples of how NOT to write code. Stick with Notepad, and do any final edits with >gulp!< the Graphical Editor here. Yes, Word is that bad.
Now, onto the content (wish I knew enough to be nitpicky there, hehe