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Thread: Wookie Hunting armor
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PainStealer
Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:49 pm
#1
Well .. let me just say this .. the wookiee hunting armor rocks.
I was able to make 3 different builds today
80% kinetic 67% base
80% kinetic 80% energy 67% base
and
40% stun 74% kinetic 62% base
Needless to say i have had a busy day.
Deija
I was able to make 3 different builds today
80% kinetic 67% base
80% kinetic 80% energy 67% base
and
40% stun 74% kinetic 62% base
Needless to say i have had a busy day.
Deija
Adamreiak
Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:12 am
#2
Very nice builds.. I was only able to hit 80% kinetic, 58% base on mine using the resources I could find or buy.. I have some others tho that I think will raise it into the 60's, and enuf janta and other to raise it even further.. All in all though, this stuff is pretty nice!
Neige
Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:17 am
#3
PLEASE HELP WITH CHECKING / ADDING INFORMATIONS
Ressources Kashyyykian Hunting Armor
organics
300 datho leathery hide - rancors (nothing simplier ?)
192 dant avian bones - voritors
270 lokian leathery - Gurks
220 tatooinian wooly - (?)
Wood
96 yavinian evergreen - extractor (rarein ressource vendor)
270 dathomir evergreen wood - extractor (rarein ressource vendor)
minerals
120 mythra copper - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
130 polymer - extractorr (common in ressource vendor)
140 naboo fiberplast - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
Tailor
4 synthe clothes (what is needed for this ?)
For Stun resist layer add:
(???)
Ressources Black Mountain Armor
Organics
176 dant leathery -Bols
220 leathery hide - (advice ?)
130 nabooian wooly hide - Pecko Peckos (other?)
Bois
275 yavin deciduous - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
88 endorian conifer - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
220 endorian deciduous - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
Minerals
130 copper - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
130 polymer - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
80 fiberplast - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
Tailor
4 synthe cloth (what is needed for this ?)
10 armor padding (what is needed for this ?)
For Stun resist layer add:
(???)
For Acid resist layer add:
(???)
For Heat resist layer add:
(???)
organics
300 datho leathery hide - rancors (nothing simplier ?)
192 dant avian bones - voritors
270 lokian leathery - Gurks
220 tatooinian wooly - (?)
Wood
96 yavinian evergreen - extractor (rarein ressource vendor)
270 dathomir evergreen wood - extractor (rarein ressource vendor)
minerals
120 mythra copper - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
130 polymer - extractorr (common in ressource vendor)
140 naboo fiberplast - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
Tailor
4 synthe clothes (what is needed for this ?)
For Stun resist layer add:
(???)
Ressources Black Mountain Armor
Organics
176 dant leathery -Bols
220 leathery hide - (advice ?)
130 nabooian wooly hide - Pecko Peckos (other?)
Bois
275 yavin deciduous - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
88 endorian conifer - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
220 endorian deciduous - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
Minerals
130 copper - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
130 polymer - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
80 fiberplast - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
Tailor
4 synthe cloth (what is needed for this ?)
10 armor padding (what is needed for this ?)
For Stun resist layer add:
(???)
For Acid resist layer add:
(???)
For Heat resist layer add:
(???)
royalewitcheez
Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:04 am
#4
Neige wrote:
PLEASE HELP WITH CHECKING / ADDING INFORMATIONS
Ressources Kashyyykian Hunting Armor
organics
300 datho leathery hide - rancors (nothing simplier ?)
192 dant avian bones - voritors
270 lokian leathery - Gurks
220 tatooinian wooly - (?) Banthas
Wood
96 yavinian evergreen - extractor (rarein ressource vendor)
270 dathomir evergreen wood - extractor (rarein ressource vendor)
minerals
120 mythra copper - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
130 polymer - extractorr (common in ressource vendor)
140 naboo fiberplast - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
Tailor
4 synthe clothes (what is needed for this ?) 16 fiberplast, 4 inert petro each cloth, grinding quality is fine
For Stun resist layer add:
(???) Stun layers ?
Ressources Black Mountain Armor
Organics
176 dant leathery -Bols
220 leathery hide - (advice ?) Voritors, rancors, squills.. whatever has the best hide
130 nabooian wooly hide - Pecko Peckos (other?) Guamalas
Bois
275 yavin deciduous - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
88 endorian conifer - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
220 endorian deciduous - extractor (rare in ressource vendor)
Minerals
130 copper - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
130 polymer - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
80 fiberplast - extractor (common in ressource vendor)
Tailor
4 synthe cloth (what is needed for this ?) See above
10 armor padding (what is needed for this ?) 15 hide, 10 wooly 5 fiberplast, and a tailor.... quality and experimentation matters
granga
Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:52 am
#5
so let me get this straight. Now the wookies have armor as good as composite, they still have higher ham from being a big bad wookie. Hmmm you know, i can help but feel that anyone who does flavor of the month is just smart, seems how the devs are so good at making a balanced game.
I know you guys didnt have armor, and was happy when i herd you would be, its just not fair. But now they gonna make wookies better, not to mention that wookies are already the best speicies for making a jedi.
Im not bitching, just pointing out that this is typical. I was gonna quit anyway though, im gonna start designing for these kind of games soon, and dont have time to play a mmorpg. Hopfully i can help make a better game than this. This game has nothing but bells and whistles that rarely dont cause more problems of their own. But then again, most of the people you would normally hear agreeing with me will just keep playing the game, and just **edit** and never do anything about it. Does any on think of heroin or just plain out addiction when they hear this?
Oh well, thats my 2 cents, glad the wookies got armor though, at least they made them happy, for this month that is.
Peace out hommies.
JodoKai
Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:21 am
#6
granga wrote:
so let me get this straight. Now the wookies have armor as good as composite, they still have higher ham from being a big bad wookie. Hmmm you know, i can help but feel that anyone who does flavor of the month is just smart, seems how the devs are so good at making a balanced game.
You obviously have never played a wookiee. Do you know how much higher Wookiee HAM is? With buffs the way they are now, 100 points really doesn't matter. It's like the Zeb's vitality, what the heck is 50 points going to do for you?
I know you guys didnt have armor, and was happy when i herd you would be, its just not fair. But now they gonna make wookies better, not to mention that wookies are already the best speicies for making a jedi.
I have never and I mean never seen a wookiee jedi. Most of the ones I've seen are Zeb's or humans.
Im not bitching, just pointing out that this is typical. I was gonna quit anyway though, im gonna start designing for these kind of games soon, and dont have time to play a mmorpg. Hopfully i can help make a better game than this. This game has nothing but bells and whistles that rarely dont cause more problems of their own. But then again, most of the people you would normally hear agreeing with me will just keep playing the game, and just **edit** and never do anything about it. Does any on think of heroin or just plain out addiction when they hear this?
I hope you do start designing games. Then maybe you will understand how difficult it is to balance this type of game. In a class/level based game balance is much easier. You just have to look at a few things to make sure they balance out. In a skill based game like this one, you have to consider every possible combination of skills and abilities.
Morath360
Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:34 am
#7
I have been a Wookiee since July of last year. It is funny how people think so much of the extra stats. Do you understand that buffs themselves very between docs. Even if you got identical buffs, Zabraks for example get what 800 on the regen stats for mind. Humans do as well. Wookiees get 600 and 650. The ceremonial armor was really junk in pvp. This at least gives us a chance. Given that many target the mind, the extra wookiee stats on health and action would still only be a marginal benefit. Given our minds are not as strong as at least humans, Zabs, or Calimari, I would say it is going to be pretty balanced to be a wookiee. Thats what I am hoping for anyway..
granga wrote:
so let me get this straight. Now the wookies have armor as good as composite, they still have higher ham from being a big bad wookie. Hmmm you know, i can help but feel that anyone who does flavor of the month is just smart, seems how the devs are so good at making a balanced game.
I know you guys didnt have armor, and was happy when i herd you would be, its just not fair. But now they gonna make wookies better, not to mention that wookies are already the best speicies for making a jedi.
Im not bitching, just pointing out that this is typical. I was gonna quit anyway though, im gonna start designing for these kind of games soon, and dont have time to play a mmorpg. Hopfully i can help make a better game than this. This game has nothing but bells and whistles that rarely dont cause more problems of their own. But then again, most of the people you would normally hear agreeing with me will just keep playing the game, and just **edit** and never do anything about it. Does any on think of heroin or just plain out addiction when they hear this?
Oh well, thats my 2 cents, glad the wookies got armor though, at least they made them happy, for this month that is.
Peace out hommies.
granga
Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:18 am
#8
yeah,I was just asking in galaxy forums as to what the wookie substats are.
I havnt had a chance to make a wookie on another server to see how highI can get them, but that was my next question.
Yes if the mind substats are not high then all the extra ham you get isnt as good as it seems, I retract my previous statment, wookies did need somthing better.
granga
Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:27 am
#9
Also, I know how difficult it is to make games, I've been looking at them for more than half my life. I wouldnt be getting into the buisness if i dindt have a clue. But ill tell you somthing, it wouldnt be half as hard to balance a game if it was done so back when it was in the developemental stage. I understand bugs and gliches of that nature happening on a game like this, but were talking about major balance issues here that have yet to be dealt with since launch. If you really wanna tell me that the best thing is to keep coming out with more and more material before you have the basis game figured out then go right ahead.
Dont get all heated either, i will tell you when im wrong, and i am wrong about the wookie ham being that much better. But your not going to convince me that this game is well balanced, and that this game is WAY too difficult to balance, cause that doesnt cut it.
When you make a game you make sure it works. Now who's to blame? Devs? lots of people wanna blame them cause theyprogram the game. Then theres the people that blame big bad soe, cause they pushed it out to soon. Then you got the real brainiacs that think it was the beta testers faults, they didnt give good enough feed back. Well to be honest i dont know who is to blame, i dont like pointing fingers, i just like to see good products. Spend all your time blaming people, see how far thatll get you.
ChunkyMunky
Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:18 am
#11
I have been playing as a wookie since day 1. I have almost always been the first to die in any type of big battle. I'm ok with that, but I'm not ok with not being able to hold my own in PvP, where some punk kid in comp armor keeps running his mouth and desperately deserves a good beating. This armor is a good thing.
The HAM bonus we get is nothing, it's the ones that fear losing a fight that complain about it. Oddly enough, these are usually the ones that use me as a Nightsister scratching post so they don't hurt their pretty armor. Anyways, I'm glad that you see that the HAM bonus is crap, and I hope you spread the word.
All of this time, we have been honing tactics to avoid death. This alone is how we will win in PvP.
JodoKai
Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:53 am
#12
Looking at them and designing them are two totally different things. I've been "looking" at them probably longer than you've been alive (that's a guess since I don't really know how old you are) but that doesn't qualify me to develop them.
I'm not saying it is balanced because you're right it's not. I'm saying it's a lot more difficult than people realize. I have this argument a lot in the Creature Handler boards. People have a tendency to miss the big picture. A lot of CH's want CH to be a combat class along the lines of Pistoleer and TKA. The problem with this is that CH can use ALL of their specials at the same time as any other combat profession. This would be like a Rilfeman/Pistoleer being able to use Mind Shot 3 with his DX2. Or worse a Bounty Hunter Eyeshot with his LLC. Now the point of all this isn't to discuss wether or not CH should or shouldn't be a combat class or not, this is just an example. The point is, it is very difficult to imagine every possible combination of every skill set so that it doesn't unbalance anything.
As far as adding content instead of balancing, go back and look at what all the critics said about SWG. They all said there was no content. The Devs said they wanted to players to create their own content and they took a bashing for that. Heck look at some signatures, you will still find some that are bashing them for that decision. So now that they add content you have people bashing them for not putting out the combat rebalance (and I bet if you look it would probably be the same people that were complaining about lack of content).
I know I sound like a fanboy, or a dev lover, but I assure you,I'm the first one to take a swing when the devs make, what I feel, is a dumb decision, but something people forget is that Dev's don't sit down and say "How can we make this game stink?" I mean TH was just a beta tester before he got hired. If you go back and look at his posts before he was hired he threw some mud at bad dev ideas. Do you really think he doesn't do that now? Yet people bash him personally like he is personally responsible for delaying the combat revamp.
**Edit** Since looking at your profile, I can say with confidence that I have been "looking" at them before you were born.
Message Edited by JodoKai on 07-28-2004 11:56 AM
Miqmac
Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:33 am
#13
JodoKai wrote/replied in yellow:::
granga wrote:
so let me get this straight. Now the wookies have armor as good as composite, they still have higher ham from being a big bad wookie. Hmmm you know, i can help but feel that anyone who does flavor of the month is just smart, seems how the devs are so good at making a balanced game.
You obviously have never played a wookiee. Do you know how much higher Wookiee HAM is? With buffs the way they are now, 100 points really doesn't matter. It's like the Zeb's vitality, what the heck is 50 points going to do for you?
I know you guys didnt have armor, and was happy when i herd you would be, its just not fair. But now they gonna make wookies better, not to mention that wookies are already the best speicies for making a jedi.
I have never and I mean never seen a wookiee jedi. Most of the ones I've seen are Zeb's or humans.
Im not bitching, just pointing out that this is typical. I was gonna quit anyway though, im gonna start designing for these kind of games soon, and dont have time to play a mmorpg. Hopfully i can help make a better game than this. This game has nothing but bells and whistles that rarely dont cause more problems of their own. But then again, most of the people you would normally hear agreeing with me will just keep playing the game, and just **edit** and never do anything about it. Does any on think of heroin or just plain out addiction when they hear this?
I hope you do start designing games. Then maybe you will understand how difficult it is to balance this type of game. In a class/level based game balance is much easier. You just have to look at a few things to make sure they balance out. In a skill based game like this one, you have to consider every possible combination of skills and abilities.
Its funny. and this is the wrong place to respond to this but. I have played a wookiee since launch. I got owned for about a year in pvp and with the ceremonial armor I got owned only 90% as much. Now I have a chance to fight back. The part about wookiee jedi... well, I AM ONE. I was a wookie jedi before they took armor away from jedi and every laughed at me asking me why I choose wookie for my jedi. My only reason was that aside from the fact that I like wookiees.. I love the wookiee roar (area intimidate). And then they took armor away from the jedi and gave all of us the same lousy robes.. Now all those people that asked me why I choose wookie are wondering why they didnt choose wookiee... LOL LOL LOL.
Now Wookiees rule both as jedi and non jedi. they are the combat force that they should have been. I think that in the next patch we should get /wookieeripyourarmoff as a special bleed attack as well
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