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Thread: psg resists stack with armor??

Fleiwia
Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:26 pm
#1

Curious if anyone has any parse's or proofs that they stack.
pykescylla
Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:23 pm
#2

Should be easy enough to test yourself. Have someone shoot you with an energy weapon with and without the PSG. They certainly should stack.



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CrowdController
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:33 am
#3

psg stack with armor ... and its very effective cause if u have 8k en armor and 2.5k shield its not just like 10.5k en armor (something over 60% protection) but like 2 separate armors(so over 80% protection) ....



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Arem
Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:32 am
#4

after the widly accpted formula: 0.011R-(5*10^-7)*R^2
and the caps of 2400 for the PSG and 8200 for quad energy layered reconnaisance armor.

we have 23.52+56.58=80.1% mitigation. someone messed with the formula, Blix design meant 80% for sure

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pykescylla
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:16 am
#5



Arem wrote:
after the widly accpted formula: 0.011R-(5*10^-7)*R^2
and the caps of 2400 for the PSG and 8200 for quad energy layered reconnaisance armor.
we have 23.52+56.58=80.1% mitigation. someone messed with the formula, Blix design meant 80% for sure

Message Edited by Arem on 09-21-2005 12:33 PM



Actually the damage reduction is even greater than that. Adding the armor ratings together would work if both armors were hit with the same damage, but they aren't. The PSG takes the first hit, reducing the damage that the armor has to mitigate by 20 percent or more.



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JediSpam
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:23 am
#6

Yeah, the PSG actslike a filter.



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MonKaiku
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:23 am
#7

too bad they last about 5 seconds before they need to recharge



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Arem
Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:26 am
#8






pykescylla wrote:





Arem wrote:

after the widly accpted formula: 0.011R-(5*10^-7)*R^2
and the caps of 2400 for the PSG and 8200 for quad energy layered reconnaisance armor.

we have 23.52+56.58=80.1% mitigation. someone messed with the formula, Blix design meant 80% for sure

Message Edited by Arem on 09-21-2005 12:33 PM




Actually the damage reduction is even greater than that. Adding the armor ratings together would work if both armors were hit with the same damage, but they aren't. The PSG takes the first hit, reducing the damage that the armor has to mitigate by 20 percent or more.




No, wrong. Show me your combat logs. I never had more mitigation than what the formula predicts in any tests.







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Arem
Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:31 am
#9






MonKaiku wrote:
too bad they last about 5 seconds before they need to recharge





mypsg are protecting many minutes in 1 vs 1 situations. The mitigated damage goes slighly down over time that is true.Starting with 240 absorbed from a 364 hits I still have229 from 364after 3 minutes. (that is combined armor+ psg)







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pykescylla
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:24 am
#10



Arem wrote:


pykescylla wrote:


Arem wrote:
after the widly accpted formula: 0.011R-(5*10^-7)*R^2
and the caps of 2400 for the PSG and 8200 for quad energy layered reconnaisance armor.
we have 23.52+56.58=80.1% mitigation. someone messed with the formula, Blix design meant 80% for sure

Message Edited by Arem on 09-21-2005 12:33 PM



Actually the damage reduction is even greater than that. Adding the armor ratings together would work if both armors were hit with the same damage, but they aren't. The PSG takes the first hit, reducing the damage that the armor has to mitigate by 20 percent or more.


No, wrong. Show me your combat logs. I never had more mitigation than what the formula predicts in any tests.



No data. That's just the way it should work. Guess I shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't.



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Eldon-Kauri
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:45 am
#11

How can you tell the difference on pre-cu (the one you can adk) and the new psg's?



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LeviticusD
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:47 am
#12

I don't think you can ADK either, but if it already has one it still works.




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Eldon-Kauri
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:54 am
#13

Ahhh ok. Minus the price of the adk what would be a guess on the price of one?



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