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Thread: Just what percentage of Armorsmiths are the ones that enjoy the GDK Scale drop rate
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PadreBook
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:11 pm
#1
I ask this because I see every thread that talks about the GDK (and other RIS component droppers) dropping multiple of the scale getting a bunch of whiners and one-stars. I mean is that how the majority of the Armorsmiths feel--'dang multiple drops, more people might actually see a set of RIS.' Or is that just an elitist minority that has a hair trigger on the one star button? It took seven months of solid work from a guy with multiple accounts and a lot of time plus 100+ million credits to make Intrepid's first suit. Thanks to people that are happy that they are the l33t few with some RIS bits the image is that armorsmiths as a whole want the GDK scale drop rate just the way it was, even though there was a 19 question to the contrary. Thanks a lot.
Expecting a ridiculous number of one stars,
Padre
Expecting a ridiculous number of one stars,
Padre
Keuller
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:26 pm
#2
Every game should have that sought after item. RIS and Mandalorian armors were some of SWG's highly sought after but rarely acquired items. I liked that. I also had RIS made before multiple drops. I'm against the multi-drops, especially on GDK scales. In fact, the only thing I would agree with multiple drops on are the woolamander harrowers since they're a static, timed spawn. Everything else is wild and random so the person who puts in the most effort hunting will be rewarded best, the harrowers are the exception.
speardancer
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:37 pm
#3
I think the Peko-peko feather should be a multi item drop as well. The layers would have potential uses, if the feathers were not so hard to get.
I'd actualy like to see the drop rate stay above one per kill, but perhaps limited to 2-3. This is considering the abysmal drop rate we're currently seeing, of 1 in 200+ kills...
I'd actualy like to see the drop rate stay above one per kill, but perhaps limited to 2-3. This is considering the abysmal drop rate we're currently seeing, of 1 in 200+ kills...
DirthNader
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:38 pm
#4
It was nice to havesomething in the game that took months to complete, not hours.
Did you ever stop to think that if RIS isn't rare then it's pointless (at least until the combat balance). We got a neat looking, rarely seen, useless armor already - it's called padded.
speardancer
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:46 pm
#5
Actualy, it's so hard to get right now, it doesn't matter how well the RIS is made, noone's going to use it because it cost too damn much and takes too long to get it.
I'm not saying it should be made common... but at least brought down to a point where the really rich players might consider actualy using it as armor, instead of just a dress uniform
I'm not saying it should be made common... but at least brought down to a point where the really rich players might consider actualy using it as armor, instead of just a dress uniform
PadreBook
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:51 pm
#6
Keuller wrote:
Every game should have that sought after item. RIS and Mandalorian armors were some of SWG's highly sought after but rarely acquired items. I liked that. I also had RIS made before multiple drops. I'm against the multi-drops, especially on GDK scales. In fact, the only thing I would agree with multiple drops on are the woolamander harrowers since they're a static, timed spawn. Everything else is wild and random so the person who puts in the most effort hunting will be rewarded best, the harrowers are the exception.
Yeah, well why should the drop rate go back to 1 in 40-100 GDK's? Because you have pieces already? I mean there's rare and then there's why bother. This is why bother ridiculous novelty level, with the only class of people that can afford it are Armorsmiths with the 4.5 million per GDK scale alone (on Intrepid). Enjoy polishing your RIS, I guess is your plan.
Padre
PadreBook
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:57 pm
#7
There's hard then there's stupid ridiculous. I mean I have zero RIS, yet I personally own a +20 AS exp/+12 AS assembly/+6 AS repair suit, a +25 Food Exp/+16 Food Assembly suit, a +25 Structure Exp/+25 Structure Assembly suit, and a +25 Artisan Exp/+15 Artisan Assembly suit and I owned a +25 DE experimentation suit (lost in a house decay mixup)--no, I have never been in the Borgle caves or the like. All those in addition to a ridiculous amount of other stuff was easier to get that than ONE PIECE OF RIS. Yes, I've had quite a number of the Gurk Hides, Woolymander Bones, and Peko Peko Feathers, but only one GDK scale. So again I say there is hard and then their is what you want.
Padre
Padre
DirthNader
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:07 pm
#8
PadreBook wrote:
There's hard then there's stupid ridiculous. I mean I have zero RIS, yet I personally own a +20 AS exp/+12 AS assembly/+6 AS repair suit, blah blah blah
I have a full set of RIS. I only have a +10 suit, and an extra +5 attachment. I fail to see your point. Getting a suit of RIS was easier (and cheaper) than putting together a +20 suit on my server.
BTW, for someone accusing another person of a one-star campaign, you appear to have a nice one going yourself.
Message Edited by DirthNader on 07-01-2004 05:11 PM
BabyRancor
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:16 pm
#9
DirthNader wrote:
PadreBook wrote:
There's hard then there's stupid ridiculous. I mean I have zero RIS, yet I personally own a +20 AS exp/+12 AS assembly/+6 AS repair suit, blah blah blah
I have a full set of RIS. I only have a +10 suit, and an extra +5 attachment. I fail to see your point. Getting a suit of RIS was easier (and cheaper) than putting together a +20 suit on my server.
BTW, for someone accusing another person of a one-star campaign, you appear to have a nice one going yourself.
Message Edited by DirthNader on 07-01-2004 05:11 PM
So what will you use that RIS suit for? It's armour, not decoration. Even if it were the best armour ever, equivalent to Composite now after the combat revamp goes through, people still wouldn't wear it since it's so difficult to assemble.
Also, after the revamp folks will not be soloing GDK, peko peko or whatever unless they are Jedi. So you're still not going to see every Tom, **edit** or Harry in RIS.
Oh, and the game has another rare sought after armour now - there isn't a full suit of Mandalorian anywhere on any server. No need to have two useless decoration pieces.
Keuller
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:19 pm
#10
PadreBook wrote:
Yeah, well why should the drop rate go back to 1 in 40-100 GDK's? Because you have pieces already? I mean there's rare and then there's why bother. This is why bother ridiculous novelty level, with the only class of people that can afford it are Armorsmiths with the 4.5 million per GDK scale alone (on Intrepid). Enjoy polishing your RIS, I guess is your plan.
Padre
It should go back to that because it's the drop rate I endured when getting my RIS pieces. Why should you have it easier? I don't see everyone driving a Bentley Arnage Red Label, should they lower the price because you don't want to work hard enough to get one? No. It's a status symbol. It says "I was one crazy mofo and I worked my ass off for this neato-armor".
Go look up epic in the dictionary. I doubt it means "Kinda hard to get".
furlock1
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:27 pm
#11
Ever heard of technology distribution? Its called rare things stop being rare and become more widely available as they are understood I personally see the previous system as a progression of that as something is made it becomes more efficeint to make those things and they become less rare. Even so only those with 5 million or more will be buying So having a **edit** fest about is juvenile. What we should find out is if its intentional or a bug once that's discovered then live with it we did ask for more increased drops afterall.
CharPrime
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:52 pm
#12
i am the first AS on interpid to assembly a full suit
i have killed over 200 and never looted one. i had to buy all 11 of them. i can not tell you have much time i spend at the woolmander cave, lok, the naboo. of all the components that i have collected over 70, gdk scale was by far the hardest thing to get. i have never looted one. my 1st gdk come from some guy who get it off a vendor for 500 credits. i paid him 4 million for it. i was also the first one on interpid to offer 4 million per server. fact is that is alot more rare then a krayt pearl, i needed to pull some of the krayt hunters to hunt GDKs. as far the GDK scales being rare. yes that should keep it rare. i could have grind all 3 accounts for jedi in the amount of time i spend on it. Also i am happy that with time SOE allow 3 layers and geo cubes to be used in the ris. This has turned a display armor to a full working armor.
as of right now there are 2 more smiths on interpid that has all the components to assembly a set. there are also many helmets that have been made. i get tells all the time about making ris. i will only make it if someone wants to get the best stats on it, not as a display piece. which is mosty what people what. which brings the ris armor to "junk" level. there have beenmany helmets auctioned off at interpid, why is it that they only sell for a little more then the cost of a GDK scales. its because the stats are bad, non interwoven, only good for spaceports and parties. i don't do display armor. I don't craft armor that i wouldn'tuse myseft. i hope theirs turn out great. its the greatest "quest" in the game.
As for the drop rate of GDK scales. yes they should be rare but not impossible. it should be 1 drop in 30 or not 11 drops at once. also GDK should drop other loot then unless bone armor segments
zindabar
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:46 pm
#13
I have been trying off and on for many months to get all the loots for the RIS quest, ended up buying most of them as I got fed up with killing gurk kings and woolamanders with no loots and having great difficulty finding Peko Peko Albatross and absolutely no luck with GDK's. I began to think it was a complete waste of time and gave in and bought all bar the GDK scale which I have never seen for sale.
I welcome the multiple drop rate as more suits of ris will be made, seen and used. It was made to be used and no one would do that before given how hard it was to obtain the loots.
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