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Thread: Quick Question About Extraction Rates
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Praolith
Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:39 pm
#1
I left the game before extraction rates came into the game, and I have a question about it.
From my understanding, in a Heavy Mineral Harverster, the extraction rate is defined by the Ore Mining Unit. so I used some good materials, and made a 98% base extraction rate of 6 Ore mining unit. I put that in the final combine, and got an extraction 10 harvester, before experimentation. so I experimented the final combine up to about 92%, but still only got an extraction rate of 12. Can anyone tell me what else factors into extraction rates, so I can acheieve 13 on those harvesters?
Thanks,
Pawlin
Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:59 pm
#2
If you had a 98% OMU then you would hit BER13 during final combine around the 77-80% range.
So something is amiss.
I'd double check to make sure that you used the right schematic when you made the OMU. If you don't label the schematic during creation then it can be easy to mix them up.
Praolith
Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:20 pm
#3
That makes sense, Zen. It's unfortunate we don't get ana ccurate reading, especially as it effects the most important experimental part of the item. I will run off a few more OMU's and see if I have any better luck getting a BER of 13 on the final combine.
Thanks for the responses.
Kharn_JB
Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:24 pm
#4
The quality of the resources used and the OMU or other harvesting mechanisms used in the final combine for harvestors matters as well. sounds as if you're not using top notch resources in the final combine. The chemical or ore could be holding you back if you're using the same metal as in the OMUs. Use lube oil for the chem as you won't have to worry about getting good quality lube oil as it won't effect the BER, and Katrium Intrusive Ore is very good to use as well since it has great BER effecting stats.
Tempus_Blackthorn
Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:07 pm
#5
In the final combine, make sure you use your best OMUs and best resources. The walls and storage modules can be cheap stuff.
I do OMUs with a BER of 6, use my best steel, ore, and some lube oil, and I almost always hit the BER13, unless I get a moderate success or worse.
Damn I hate those...
Ekero
Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:15 pm
#6
from my experience, the minimum % you'll want on the OMU is 87 in order to get 13 in the final combine.
Bandola
Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:03 am
#7
Tempus_Blackthorn wrote:
In the final combine, make sure you use your best OMUs and best resources. The walls and storage modules can be cheap stuff.
I do OMUs with a BER of 6, use my best steel, ore, and some lube oil, and I almost always hit the BER13, unless I get a moderate success or worse.
Damn I hate those...
Good advice, at least until you get to know what you can and can't get away with. I regularly max my OMUs out at around 90% by using 'marginal' resources (some of the steel I use for example just makes avg 900 exactly on the stats) and then use some of this marginal steel in the final combine as well, but I still get a BER13. I can tell straight away if I will get 13 when I see the result of the first combine. As long as you know what you are doing, and compensate for the lower HQ stuff with the other resources this will work. This is extremely useful as the cost of HQ resources can sometimes be prohibitive. The marginal steel I bought for aound 1.5 cpu rather than 3 cpu or more for the best stuff for example, and I bought a few million units, so saved myself several million credits by doing this.
miklaorm
Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:11 am
#8
True, most of my OMU's are in the 96 to 98% range and I hit BER13 after 8 experimentations which is usually around 80% and then throw two points into the hopper to get them to 117k or so. Sometimes I'm lucky and get a few amazing successes in there and am able to throw 3 into hopper size.
Praolith
Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:46 am
#9
What is the best base extraction rate you can get on an OMU. When I delve mine, it says 6 on it. Anyone got any higer? If 6 is the highest, then I wouldnt think the OMU would be the problem, butI will double-check when I get home from work this afternoon. Thanks for the replies.
ZenDragonMLS
Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:53 am
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Praolith wrote:What is the best base extraction rate you can get on an OMU. When I delve mine, it says 6 on it. Anyone got any higer? If 6 is the highest, then I wouldnt think the OMU would be the problem, but I will double-check when I get home from work this afternoon. Thanks for the replies.
The highest extraction rate *displayed* on an OMU is 6. However, it is very clear that they store either the final "quality" (e.g., 93%) or an extraction rate with more precision (e.g., 6.8) with that OMU. If you make an OMU and stop immediately after it indicates a rate of "6", you may have a problem hitting BER13 on the final assembly. If you continue to experiment and get the *quality* up into the 90s (as high as possible), then typically you will have no problem hitting BER13 on the final assembly.
MistakenIdent
Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:48 am
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In theory, you should be able to get a BER of 7 on an omu IF (and only if) your resources are ALL max 1000. This should with quality rolls on experimentation allow you to get to a 100% value.
In reality, this will never happen again. I have one 100% OMU on Dantooine, that I am about to put into the only thing that takes one OMU, an fusion generator. If im lucky, I might be able get a BER 15, but I'm not holding my breath.
ZenDragonMLS
Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:45 pm
#12
I have a stock of 100% OMUs left from Temporary Tuesday. I have made fusions with them with great resouces, and that initial assembly just puts them at BER14. I don't think you'll hit 15.
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