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Thread: Good Extract Numbers

Stark-Fuji
Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:01 am
#1

OK if I'm gonna buy a Heavy Mining, Gas and Fusion installtions. what would be good and real good numbers to look for?



thanks for the help!




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Bandola
Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:30 am
#2

All heavies (Gas, Chem, Mineral) cap at 13 BER. Fusions at 14 BER. These are the current max extraction rates that can be made.




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Mkappus
Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:20 am
#3

As he said max is 13 for a heavy, 14 for a fusion. Considering you can get mediums at 10kg/hr I wouldn't bother with a heavy unless it was a 12 or 13. If cash is tight most architects charge a premium for 13s and might give you a break on 12s.



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Manipulative
Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:37 am
#4

To the previous poster's point, I charge 150k for a BER 12, while I charge 195k for a BER 13. That extra bit is going to cost you, since it's going to cost me my best steel.


Similarly a BER 10 mineral miner, I charge 55k for, whlie a BER 9, I only charge 45k for.




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Stark-Fuji
Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:44 am
#5

Whats the best extract number from a Moisture Vapor ?


I found a 10. Is that good?




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ZenDragonMLS
Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:57 am
#6

A harvester is a harvester is a harvester - the *type* of resource that it pumps doesn't matter as far as rate is concerned. The only thing that matters is it's size.

So - *again* - the *current* MAX rates that we can build are:

small (personal) - BER4
medium - BER10
heavy - BER13

That applies no matter what resource the harvester is built for.



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LukeBorgman
Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:11 pm
#7

Does a BER 10 medium mineral harvester harvest the same amount of resource (given the same concentration and time) as a BER 10 heavy mineral harvester?


I've had someone say he ran a test and that the BER alone, not the size matters. If that's true, then heavies under BER 10 is a total waste of build resources, factory runs, and maintenance fees. Is that right?! ...especially for mineral harvesters where mediums take a lot less to build.




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buffbc
Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:13 pm
#8

I would say that heavies under BER 10 are a total waste. From what I have seen, both 10's would suck in the same resources, but the heavy costs more to operate.


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Pawlin
Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:20 pm
#9






LukeBorgman wrote:

Does a BER 10 medium mineral harvester harvest the same amount of resource (given the same concentration and time) as a BER 10 heavy mineral harvester?




Yes.



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ZenDragonMLS
Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:52 pm
#10

Right - a BER is a BER is a BER - period.

To make the math easy, just remember that 1BER on a 69% spot gives you exactly 1000 units of resource a day. So a 10 BER harvester - of ANY size - would pump up 10,000 units of resource a day on a 69% spot.

I regard heavies less than BER11 and mediums less than BER7 to be essentially worthless. They are too close to the next lower size harvester to make the added operating cost worthwhile.



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Hunden
Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:39 pm
#11

2 differences between a ber 10 heavy and a ber 10 mid...



mids are cheeper to run so will give you exactly the same resourses as the heavy but will cost you less credits in maint and less power to do exactly the same thing.



the heavy will have a larger hopper, so you can leave it longer without having to empty it




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