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Thread: Ok i'm a new Master architect on Intrepid

Greenbulb
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:38 pm
#1

And i hardly know a thing in this world about it,i got atleast where i know how much it is to make a Large Medium and small house going they 3cpu


Large: 100250cr

Med: 54000cr

Small: 10164cr

(No added cost to gain money,this is how much it takes to spend on it)



I figure on furniture i can just make furniture By makeing them in Crates and takeing them out of the crate and selling them to save time and space. and i can figure furniture prices Easy.


But i don't have any lots andi don't have any harvestors for myself. I donot want tounder or overprice my things i like being in the middle of pricesi figure add 60-70k on the large house and add extra for my merchant that i hired.





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VelRahn
Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:03 am
#2






Greenbulb wrote:

And i hardly know a thing in this world about it,i got atleast where i know how much it is to make a Large Medium and small house going they 3cpu


Large: 100250cr

Med: 54000cr

Small: 10164cr

(No added cost to gain money,this is how much it takes to spend on it)



I figure on furniture i can just make furniture By makeing them in Crates and takeing them out of the crate and selling them to save time and space. and i can figure furniture prices Easy.


But i don't have any lots andi don't have any harvestors for myself. I donot want tounder or overprice my things i like being in the middle of pricesi figure add 60-70k on the large house and add extra for my merchant that i hired.








Since pricing for items varies wildly from server to server, your best bet is go visit some architects who are already in business on your server and see what they charge.




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Farradin
Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:07 am
#3

Hi,

I am a Master Architect on Intrepid also. Been one since shortly after the game started. Right now the economy is just stupid. Resource prices go as low as 1 cpu and as high as 10cpu for the same crap. There are a lot of dumb miners and a lot of greedy miners and resources are everywhere.


In the last month I have yet to find another Master Architect online. I do searches wherever I go and we seem to be rare. It is rare to find a vendor with houses on it. (I have one outside theed). House don't sell well. Actually right now there isnt much market for anything. Not like it used to be when I would have to remove my MA tag just to get a little peace and to get some work done. Not anymore. Everyone wants to be a doctor and then they **edit** because I charge 65k for a food factory.


My prices for Naboo houses are:

small 12500

medium 60k

Large 145k

Guild halls 500k

Generic dwellings are a bit higher



I don't go lower although I have found people selling medium houses as low as 35k. I buy them and put them on my vendor at the price I think they should be. There are one tier wonders selling harvesters for nothing.


You can still do ok as an architect but it is much more difficult and you have to be very carefull.


Good luck

Farradin, Master Architect, Master Artisan, Master Merchant, Marksman


KRONOS1974
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:21 am
#4

Average price i have charged:


small home - 10k

medium home- 65k

large home - 125k

guildhall- 275

cityhall - 300k


now these are fair and average prices for items that do not decay.


BUT........

You have a few people that own their own harvester fields selling these even lower. Why? Because they say they are having fun lol.

People with harvester fields can make items for less than you if you are buying resources at 3cpu. It costs them less than a credit to harvest the same resources you buy at 3cpu.

Another reason harvester fields destroy the economy.


Just play with the market and advertize often. Make a large selection to make more people happy. Dont undersell yourself as many on intrepid have.


Ono'mas





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Veers_Intrepid
Thu Jun 10, 2004 1:14 pm
#5



well its so true that economy is borked, but whos fault is that? the fault of the architects themself.


you all post yiour prices and think they are reasonable? to who? the the buyer of cource, they buy whatever is cheapest thats normal.


but think about that a tad more a pricing of 3cpu is silly and wont bring more sales at all.

our products are 1 time sales and the market is simply feed by time. period


is that a reason to lower prices and work for nothing? lol, heck no.

always new players will come and will buy, but we will NEVER again see sales like at start of swg.


for 3 cpu u can simply sell the resources and they WILL sell, without work, crafting, factory, running around etc.


i think prices sure should be fair but also to the architect, i dont see ANY other crafting profession giving wares so cheap away (beside silly artisans with vehicles for 2cpu, thats same stupid sice resources are higher prices in sales often)


well, do what you want all, but i am architect since beta and i liked that profession till the prices got right after start ruined. i will never get why at all, since all other crafters know better how to do business, plus they resell alot cause their stuff even decays.


well my prices tumble around 5cpu which is definately still a very fair price on a finished product


so a small house is 19k

medium 100k

large 200k

factory 60k


people are buying this still of cource, cause the prices are still fair. why work for nothing? why even bother if not?


just realise please when u set your prices that a fighter profession easily gets 30k missions on dantooine, so in 15 mins max including traveling from terminal to the lairs they earn 60k!!! now compare that with the work a crafter has to do to get cash finally.


then again the question, do you really think low prices are reasonable? no imo, its a gift to the buyer and you work for it


i gave up now price discussions, but i hope you guys think some about this arguments. then you will see that it is not to expensive or unreasonable to charge a tad more maybe?


regards



PS: to kronos: its NOT about what it costs you, its about what its worth! i am not forced to put my harvesters on low oq ore, i can simjply same time set them on high end steel and sell that for way higher then 3cpu. thats calculation, nothing else.


Message Edited by Veers_Intrepid on 06-10-2004 01:16 PM

Message Edited by Veers_Intrepid on 06-10-2004 01:17 PM



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irasha
Thu Jun 10, 2004 1:52 pm
#6


The trick is to find someone who will sell you resources for 2cpu or less (I get them for 1cpu off a miner) and then sell as if you were buying at 3cpu. You'll still get sales and you still get the same amount of money, but a HUGE profit margin.


That and work special orders in the beginning while building up stock, and then get a vendor in a high-traffic city and keep it stocked. I recommend furniture, as people are always decorating new places and whatnot.




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KRONOS1974
Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:35 pm
#7

PS: to kronos: its NOT about what it costs you, its about what its worth! i am not forced to put my harvesters on low oq ore, i can simjply same time set them on high end steel and sell that for way higher then 3cpu. thats calculation, nothing else.


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where did i say anything about cost of the product determines the price?

LOL i have been in many fights for people underselling their products on intrepid forums because it "only costs them 1/2 cpu to mine the stuff" were as the value is what you sell.


Dont have to tell me that. But 3cpu is an average price for resources and thats why i used 3cpu.


But in reality you have to take cost into effect first. If you pay 5cpu for a resources you must atleast try to make that back first even if your product isnt valued at 5cpu. Then toss in the value of an item that will bring millions to the person who buys it and the fact that there is no decay.


Those prices i listed were new prices after the people that undersell their products, and still theirs are lower. Makes for a newer architect harder to get his/her business going.





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