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Thread: Ore Overall Quality vs Unit Toughness

RonsterA
Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:19 am
#1

I see in the wall schematics that the most important 100% requirement is Unit Toughness. We just got and Ore that has 780 UT, but the Overall Quality is only 46. Should I pass, or should I extract?


(KInda a newbie question, but I just got to novice Architect ..just in time to see the nerfs...)



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Lasek
Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:47 am
#2

Stats don't makea differenceon structures





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docdavee
Sun Jul 27, 2003 2:18 pm
#3

when u turn master, it doesn't really matter bc most of your stuff will be done in a factory.



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RonsterA
Sun Jul 27, 2003 2:36 pm
#4

So if I understand this, OQ & UT really has no importance. Ore is Ore. And unless I experiment, then (as a novice) just take what I can get???



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MagusAlbertus
Sun Jul 27, 2003 2:50 pm
#5

yep 'cause experementation is broken.



if not then max exper would be modifyed by the resource used.

SilenceAM
Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:37 pm
#6

Even if you experiment, nothing happens. Durability is supposed to affect maintenance rates, but doesn't. Efficiency is supposed to affect extraction rates... but doesn't. None of the experimental stats do anything whatsoever on any architect made item. I have yet to figure out what they even THOUGHT they were going to make quality do for furniture...
Loamsdell
Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:50 pm
#7

THIS ISN'T TRUE... I never use a resource to craft with unless it's overall toughness is above 800. I've never failed anything larger than a stuctural module. It decresses the chance of failing a ton!
Chelis
Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:45 pm
#8

Listen to Loamsdell.....I am really sick and tired of people complaining about crit failures and that they shouldn't happen and they happen way too often. Unit Toughness does make a difference, not in experimentation(useless), but in crit failure rate it does.


In the past 2 days, I have hand crafted nearly 300 items(parts and final combines together). Most of the orders were just that, orders and I used my own material which pretty much all has unit toughness 800+(908 on my ore). I failed on 4 items of about 250 or so, all of them strucural modules. I then accepted resources from one of my customers and made him a factory. I believe thats somewhere about 37 parts.....I failed 4 time(1 wall mod, 1 gen turbine, 2 struc mods). The unit toughness on his resources was somewhere between 300-600 on most of the resources.


I know several Master architects that all use high toughness resources and none of them seem to have the problems that people whine about on these boards. Of course everyone will still crit fail on something, but use high toughness resources to dramatically decrease your chance of it.

Dorigen
Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:32 am
#9

I seem to get less failures using resources with high unit toughness.



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Blackark
Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:50 am
#10

So you fail less with your high unit toughness and I have tons more crap ore and fail more cause of a high percentage of crap ore that I am pulling.


Seems pretty balanced to me. Play whichever way you like.

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