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Thread: Noob Schematic Question.....
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Skurr
Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:54 pm
#1
Hi...Im a medic that recently bought a couple really good factories off a Master Architect, and I have a question about using a schematic. The reason I bought the factories is that , being a 4030 Doc its impossible to find Doc that make poison/disease cure packs under 80 med use. So that being said I decided to make my own. All I have to do is get the factory, power, schematic and resources. My question is this...
I understand that if someone uses aaa material to make a schematic, that you have to use aaa material in the factory too. My question is does that aaa material have to the the EXACT SAME STATS (DR, OQ, SR, ect,ect) as the resource materials used to make the schematic or can you use a poorer material with that schematic and still get the final product you desire.
Thanks for helping me out
I understand that if someone uses aaa material to make a schematic, that you have to use aaa material in the factory too. My question is does that aaa material have to the the EXACT SAME STATS (DR, OQ, SR, ect,ect) as the resource materials used to make the schematic or can you use a poorer material with that schematic and still get the final product you desire.
Thanks for helping me out
Pawlin
Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:18 pm
#2
The material used has to be the exact same material which would have the exact same stats.
For example: if you used Alonium Tatooine Fruit in the schematic then you must use Alonium Tatooine Fruit. Another type of Fruit or even another type of Tatooine Fruit will not work.
ravingbantha
Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:40 pm
#3
yup... if you look at the schematic in your data pad it'll tell you what the resource names that will be needed to make that particular item
Oh and don't let that master architect fool you.... there's no such thing as reall really good factories. Their all the same. Same storage size, same hopper size, same production rate, everything.
Message Edited by ravingbantha on 09-26-2004 04:42 PM
Skurr
Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:57 pm
#4
Let me claify.....I understand that you have to use the EXACT SAME MATERIAL that was used for the schematic, my question is in regards to stats....let me explain with a senerio...
You go to Joe Blow Doctor and request he makes you a schematic. The Doc makes the schematic using Wigits with an OQ 925. He makes it for you and a week goes by and you pick it up. Two weeks later you get around to using the schematic and the only Wigits you can get are Wigits with OQ of 452.....
A) Doesnt matter. You make the factory run with great results as long as you use the same material.
B) Your screwed buddy. Even though you used Wigits, the Wigits used to make the schematic were OQ 925, yours are 452. Your out of luck and out of money payed to get the schematic.
I hope this clarifyes my question. Does your resouces have to have the same stats as the ones used to make the schematic?
You go to Joe Blow Doctor and request he makes you a schematic. The Doc makes the schematic using Wigits with an OQ 925. He makes it for you and a week goes by and you pick it up. Two weeks later you get around to using the schematic and the only Wigits you can get are Wigits with OQ of 452.....
A) Doesnt matter. You make the factory run with great results as long as you use the same material.
B) Your screwed buddy. Even though you used Wigits, the Wigits used to make the schematic were OQ 925, yours are 452. Your out of luck and out of money payed to get the schematic.
I hope this clarifyes my question. Does your resouces have to have the same stats as the ones used to make the schematic?
LadyGrey
Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:05 pm
#5
You have a schematic that uses Wigits Resource, with the name of FUBAR. All you have is the Wigits Resource, with the name of BOHICA. You cannot use BOHICA in place of FUBAR, even though they are both Wigits Resource, and even if they had exactly the same stats. Stats don't mean a thing, all of the meaning is in the name of the resource.
If you look at your schematic, it doesn't even list the type of resource required, all is lists is the name (which can make it entertaining, if you cannot remember which resource you are looking for named HMFIC).
Elyssa
Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:08 pm
#6
And all wigits named FUBAR will always have exactly the same stats.
Pawlin
Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:28 pm
#7
Skurr wrote:
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I hope this clarifyes my question. Does your resouces have to have the same stats as the ones used to make the schematic?
Yes.
It has to be the exact same resource which would therefore have the exact same stats.
Examine a resource, say some Berries.
The Berries will have a "resource type" which is the name of that specific resource, for example there are some "Etchov" berries from Kauri. Then also note it has a "resource class" which in this case is a "Tatooinian fruit berry".
If you use that berry in a schematic then you'll need to have that exact same berry "Etchov" and all "Etchov" berries are exactly the same and have all the same stats. Anything else will not work. Another tatooinian fruit berry won't work, it has to be the "Etchov" berries only.
Skurr
Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:02 pm
#8
"And all wigits named FUBAR will always have exactly the same stats."
I guess this is my lack of understanding resource spawns in the game. I was under the impression that If Xyz iron spawned today and was OQ 456 then that spawn dissapeared then 2 weeks later that same resource Xyz iron spawned that it could be of a different OQ like 236 instead of being OQ 456. This is what lead to my question if you could use the same resource with different/lower stats.
But from what everyone has stated even if you had XYZ iron that spawned a year ago and a schematic was made a year ago, then that same spawn source dissappeared before you had time to get more of it, then today that exact same resource you needed spawned again it would spawn with the exact same OQ, SR, DR, ect that it had a year ago. Therefore it would not matter because it is the exact same as it was a year ago..
Thank you.
I guess this is my lack of understanding resource spawns in the game. I was under the impression that If Xyz iron spawned today and was OQ 456 then that spawn dissapeared then 2 weeks later that same resource Xyz iron spawned that it could be of a different OQ like 236 instead of being OQ 456. This is what lead to my question if you could use the same resource with different/lower stats.
But from what everyone has stated even if you had XYZ iron that spawned a year ago and a schematic was made a year ago, then that same spawn source dissappeared before you had time to get more of it, then today that exact same resource you needed spawned again it would spawn with the exact same OQ, SR, DR, ect that it had a year ago. Therefore it would not matter because it is the exact same as it was a year ago.
.Thank you.
Elyssa
Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:18 pm
#9
If xyz iron spawned a year ago, it will never spawn again.
You'll get abc iron and def iron, but xyz iron will never spawn again.
Your only hope of getting xyz iron is finding someone who still has some around from the time that it spawned.
Every resource has several characteristics.
Let's follow one specific spawn of iron.
First off, it's inorganic.
Then it's a mineral.
Then it's a metal.
Then it's ferrous.
Then it's iron.
Then it's a specific TYPE of iron. For our example, we'll call it dolovite iron.
Now this particular spawn of dolovite iron has a UNIQUE name. As used in the previous example, we'll call it 'fubar'
So if your schematic was made using Fubar Dolovite Iron, you must use Fubar Dolovite Iron in the factory run. Not just any old variety of Dolovite Iron will work. Only Fubar Dolovite Iron.
ALL Fubar Dolovite Iron will have exactly the same stats.
Once the current spawn of Fubar Dolovite Iron is gone, your server will NEVER spawn Fubar Dolovite Iron again.
LadyGrey
Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:53 am
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And all of this means, that whenever something really really good spawns, you pull up as much of it as you can. So, you will need enough of that type of harvester, that you can put it on every available lot that you have, and look frantically for the highest percentage place to put them on. Then you will also have the problem of storing all of those (perhaps) millions of units of whatever. They will never ever show up again.
A lesson to learn from this. Never buy a schematic unless you know you have the ingredients for it. Without the proper ingredients a schematic is completely worthless.
Another lesson to learn from this. Sony does not want you storing large amounts of anything, so you will have to learn to be very clever and creative about storage.
Welcome to hell, here is your crafting tool.
l33thaxx0rnam3
Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:47 am
#11
A lesson to learn from this. Never buy a schematic unless you know you have the ingredients for it. Without the proper ingredients a schematic is completely worthless.
True.
Another lesson to learn from this. Sony does not want you storing large amounts of anything, so you will have to learn to be very clever and creative about storage.
Also true.
You're my hero.
Welcome to hell, here is your crafting tool.
Elyssa
Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:06 am
#12
Best Quote Ever!!
LadyGrey wrote:
Welcome to hell, here is your crafting tool.
Pawlin
Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:24 am
#13
LadyGrey wrote:
Welcome to hell, here is your crafting tool.
LOL.
How about: Welcome the the third ring of hell, here's your structure crafting tool.
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